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Bill: Arms Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kommunistische Einheitspartei Dundorf
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2152
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:04:35, December 03, 2005 CET | From | International Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Arms Bill |
| Message | absolutely not. |
| Date | 00:46:19, December 04, 2005 CET | From | Kommunistische Einheitspartei Dundorf | To | Debating the Arms Bill |
| Message | While it may be a bad way to die, I see nothing wrong with blasting facists with a bunch of marburg. |
| Date | 02:35:04, December 04, 2005 CET | From | International Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Arms Bill |
| Message | there is a difference between fighting our enemies, and fighting the people our enemies rule. nuking civilians is a much different action than bombing a weapons factory, and only the latter actually contributes to the war. the former is just pointless slaughter, and i refuse to believe that this fine nation will sink that low. |
| Date | 02:36:27, December 04, 2005 CET | From | Kommunistische Arbeitspartei | To | Debating the Arms Bill |
| Message | I can see both sides here. |
| Date | 16:47:22, December 04, 2005 CET | From | Kommunistische Einheitspartei Dundorf | To | Debating the Arms Bill |
| Message | Well with constant problems with the Deltarian facists and their extremely powerful military we may need these. |
| Date | 20:13:40, December 04, 2005 CET | From | International Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Arms Bill |
| Message | and do what? nuke their population into oblivion and hope that the lunatics give up? you can't use the threat of nukes on a nation that is willing to nuke itself. nukes serve no purpose in offense: you can't nuke an army out of the way and march through that land, our army gets cancer. nukes serve no purpose in defense: are you really going to drop the bomb on Oderveld to stop an invasion? nukes only have any purpose in scare tactics: threaten their populace with total obliteration and the government will steer clear. except when dealing with homocidal dictatorships: they don't care about their people. hell, they'd probobally thank us for ridding them of their people. plus, what do you think they are going to do when we nuke their city? they have nukes, too! in every way, shape, and form, nuclear weaponry is a waste of our nation's time and money. |
| Date | 01:36:01, December 05, 2005 CET | From | Kommunistische Einheitspartei Dundorf | To | Debating the Arms Bill |
| Message | "plus, what do you think they are going to do when we nuke their city? they have nukes, too!" If we ever went to war with them anyway they would most likely be the first to use nukes. But maybe ending limitations on our military will make them think twice before attacking. I mean who is going to want their capital liquified along with half of their military bases? |
| Date | 02:52:23, December 05, 2005 CET | From | International Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Arms Bill |
| Message | think twice? you really think threatening to nuke their people will matter to them? they drop nukes on their own people, for crying out loud |
| Date | 12:01:35, December 05, 2005 CET | From | Kommunistische Einheitspartei Dundorf | To | Debating the Arms Bill |
| Message | Not just Deltaria. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 471 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 276 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 3 |
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