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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of October 3316
Details
Submitted by[?]: Vigs Partija ('Whigs')
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3317
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Vigs Partija ('Whigs')
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Vigs Partija ('Whigs')
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Vigs Partija ('Whigs')
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Vigs Partija ('Whigs')
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Vigs Partija ('Whigs')
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Vigs Partija ('Whigs')
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Vigs Partija ('Whigs')
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Vigs Partija ('Whigs')
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Vigs Partija ('Whigs')
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Vigs Partija ('Whigs')
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Progressive Green Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Progressive Green Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Progressive Green Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:28:29, June 09, 2012 CET | From | Vigs Partija ('Whigs') | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3316 |
| Message | Another new cabinet, it seems the Labour Party has defaulted. |
| Date | 17:08:28, June 09, 2012 CET | From | Dolgava Labour Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3316 |
| Message | Your party defaulted. Your party never considered the Labour Party's policies or bills. You did this. I wonder what people would think Mr.Speaker |
| Date | 17:08:49, June 09, 2012 CET | From | Dolgava Labour Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3316 |
| Message | On another note the Green Party was very supportive. |
| Date | 01:36:02, June 10, 2012 CET | From | Progressive Green Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3316 |
| Message | Although the PGP values its working relationship with the Whigs, we must agree with the Labour Party here. That Labour disagrees with us on several matters does not mean that they should be kicked from government. We abstain in protest. |
| Date | 01:47:45, June 10, 2012 CET | From | Progressive Green Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3316 |
| Message | A thought: the issue here seems to be centered on the question of who should be making the decisions. Should the Labour Party, as the current occupant of the Infastructure and Transport cabinet seat, be allowed to make all decisions regarding its area? Or do other parties have the right to vote down Labour's resolutions if they have disagreements? This is a flaw of the game - cabinet positions are mostly symbolic. All changes made to transport go through the same process as all other kinds of legislation. I'm not sure exactly how I feel about this issue. Traditionally, the Seima has not considered which party holds a particular cabinet seat in deciding on matters relevant to that department. In other words, just because the Labour Party holds the Inf. + Transp. seat does not mean it gets a free pass on all inf. and transp. bills - this is how the Seima has acted in histor. We should feel free to break from that tradition if we want. The PGP wants to stress that no matter what, we are hoping for a peaceful relationship between all parties involved. On that note, I've just now realized that the Labour Party isn't among those represented below - meaning it is inactive!!! *Sigh* oh I am so confused. |
| Date | 01:50:14, June 10, 2012 CET | From | Vigs Partija ('Whigs') | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3316 |
| Message | Labour are inactive, they never had seats, yet they expect us to just vote through their bills? No. |
| Date | 10:40:28, June 10, 2012 CET | From | Dolgava Labour Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3316 |
| Message | I am reactivating the Labour Party's account. the PGP are right here. There might be bills you disagree on but come on you do not have to abolish every idea. I think that there are polices in this country that need changing. Awnser me this when you come into power did you have to change and do things differently? That is all that the Labour Party are doing. I was greatful that I got a cabinet seat but I cannot co-operate effectivley if you are not prepared to even consider the party's ideas. You may be the main party and governing party but if you are in a coalition you have got to work together and that is not what was happening you basically were ganging up on the small party and drove them to this. The ideas presented in the Infrastructure bill allowed more freedom to do what they wanted. Local government would decide the Housing Policy. Where I live it proves popular and no homeless people get left out they get a home and a chance to live a normal life again. There is the proof it would actually solve the issue on Homelessness instead of making it worse. I want to be able to work with all parties involved like the PGP says but we can't if you, the whigs don't co-operate. We are willing to give it another go as long as the party can garuntee that it will have your support. I know the PGP will but it is down to the whigs Mr.Speaker. |
| Date | 11:33:03, June 10, 2012 CET | From | Vigs Partija ('Whigs') | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3316 |
| Message | The Whigs are happy to govern alone if it makes things simpler. We share power, as a gesture of good faith. If the gesture isn't appreciated, we can always change policy - and govern alone. |
| Date | 16:10:14, June 10, 2012 CET | From | Dolgava Labour Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3316 |
| Message | You know what you should'nt even be in government. You bully other parties in my opinion. You ask them to be in a coaliton with them and you don't consider their proposed bills or ideas you just say well this policy has worked for a long time.That is why you need change because the policies implemented have served their purpose long enough. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes |
Total Seats: 134 | |
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |
| abstain |
Total Seats: 117 |
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