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Bill: Paramilitary Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Mordusian Democratic Union

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 3321

Description[?]:

To ensure that the state has a monopoly on using arms to defend the interests of the whole nation and its population only.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:44:20, June 14, 2012 CET
FromAgrarian Party of Mordusia
ToDebating the Paramilitary Act
MessageWe will support because the legislature has agreed to reinstall a full time, professional army.

Date04:02:42, June 15, 2012 CET
FromSocial Progressive Party of Mordusia
ToDebating the Paramilitary Act
MessageThe Liberal Party, as the Conservative Party, JUST authored the current law! If this is not an instance of oscillation of the law, we can't think of a clearer example!

This is outrageous!

Date10:04:43, June 15, 2012 CET
FromMordusian Democratic Union
ToDebating the Paramilitary Act
MessageNevertheless, NP, the situation has changed and as the LP stated correctly, at present. we have full time, professional army

Date14:28:55, June 15, 2012 CET
FromSocial Progressive Party of Mordusia
ToDebating the Paramilitary Act
MessageWe will vote against this bill everytime it comes up. EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Date15:02:51, June 15, 2012 CET
FromAgrarian Party of Mordusia
ToDebating the Paramilitary Act
MessageThe Progressives supported this legislation: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=350423

We did not. We were in favor of installing paramilitaries, if (and only if, we were quite specific) the professional army would be (in part) disbanded.

However, the Progressives seemed to have shifted their position rather quickly!

Mr. Speaker, it is outrageous how the Progressives do not even take into consideration their own voting behavior before attacking another party on its supposed incoherence. We demand the honorable Progressive member calms down.

Date03:26:39, June 16, 2012 CET
FromSocial Progressive Party of Mordusia
ToDebating the Paramilitary Act
MessageWe don't believe in these sorts of preconditions. Paramilitaries are good for the sake of themselves. This balance that the Liberal Party keeps posing (we will support this bill if and only if this other bill is not in effect, and so forth, another example being funding for higher education OR funding for primary and secondary schooling, but not ever both...) is not the way the NPP does things. We believe in give and take, but that is in terms of vote trading to get bills passed. We don't argue, contrary to the way the LP sees things, that we can only have EITHER a full time military OR a Paramilitary force. And if the LP will remember, we also supported the bill legalizing paramilitaries and the part time military. The size of the standing military is inconsequential to us. What is important to us is that Parties have the right to raise paramilitary forces. So naturally, it is should not seem so amazing to the Speaker from the Liberal Party that we are opposed to a criminalization of paramilitaries, regardless of our position on the size of the standing professional military. Like other bills, that is the compromise the LP made with itself. We will not let them charge that compromise to US as a condition for getting the things that we want.

We regret that the Liberals have taken it upon themselves to tell us to calm down.

Given the absolute disregard for the oscillation portion of the etiquette bill, we will resign our offices in Government ahead of the election to protest the stances taken by our Governing Partners in recent years. And we hereby declare a boycott of any government bill proposed by any current member of the Government during the coming term.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 387

no
   

Total Seats: 251

abstain
 

Total Seats: 50


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