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Bill: Nobility Act of 3346
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partit Qawmien Soċjalista Maġatrani
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3347
Description[?]:
| The Government does not have the right to confer titles of nobility. The Constitution recognises that The Nobility have certain rights which could be considered political. This is only to make clear that the powers exercised by The Nobility are of a political nature. If The Government does choose, they can grant further powers to The Nobility. If The Nobility choose to allow it, The Government can be made responsible for the management of The Nobility. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Privileges of nobility (if nobility is recognised by the government).
Old value:: Nobility confers only titles and certain minor rights, but no political powers, and can be hereditary.
Current: Nobility confers titles and minor political rights, but no direct control over people or land, and can be hereditary.
Proposed: Nobility confers titles and minor political rights, but no direct control over people or land, and can be hereditary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:54:55, August 08, 2012 CET |
From |  Partit Qawmien Soċjalista Maġatrani | To | Debating the Nobility Act of 3346 | | Message | I think that we should have a conference with The Nobility to determine whether they would amend The Constitution to allow for The Government to confer titles and to restrict future governments from trying to take away their rights. We could also remove certain articles which some might find objectionable. |
| Date | 03:29:21, August 08, 2012 CET |
From | Social Activist Party | To | Debating the Nobility Act of 3346 | | Message | no nobility EVER. no form of monarchy will happen . nobility is just u monarchist trying to force people into a horrible monarchy |
| Date | 03:41:55, August 08, 2012 CET |
From | The Liberal Pinks | To | Debating the Nobility Act of 3346 | | Message | HS spits on anyone that considers themselves some sort of 'nobility' in Cildania. They are frauds. |
| Date | 20:55:37, August 08, 2012 CET |
From | Partit Qawmien Soċjalista Maġatrani | To | Debating the Nobility Act of 3346 | | Message | The nobility are democratic, they have almost no power. The nobility are only nobles because they are descended from historic leaders which were chosen by the people. Cildania has a very democratic system of nobility. |
| Date | 01:10:53, August 09, 2012 CET |
From | Cildanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Nobility Act of 3346 | | Message | It's a part of the cultural heritage of Cildania, why do we even use "empire" when we clearly are a republic oh wait, it's an Oligarchy controlled by the Haddasht Surbiy party. How many of you didn't endorse him in the elections just so he could sack you at the very first opportunity. But I guess that old habits die hard, once a lap dog, always a lap dog. |
| Date | 04:27:19, August 09, 2012 CET |
From | Social Activist Party | To | Debating the Nobility Act of 3346 | | Message | Your just jealous that you cant actually get in the cabinet because you are unwilling to work with anybody. NOne of us have the same beliefs as HS but we work with cause hes willing to work with people and we benefit from this. And lastly you know that the CNC gets foreign affairs cause of the endorsement and I endorsed him cause I dont want u has our head of state |
| Date | 05:18:55, August 09, 2012 CET |
From | Cildanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Nobility Act of 3346 | | Message | At least you don't deny being a lapdog, and no the CIP are not jealous, we simply just disagree with the current administration. You wouldn't need to endorse anyone or be afraid of the CIP getting the head of state position if we had a constitutional monarchy. It's quite obvious that your party is being used. What benefits have you gain? last time I checked the HS did vote in favor for the CIP proposal of the free market reforms. |
| Date | 05:25:55, August 09, 2012 CET |
From | Social Activist Party | To | Debating the Nobility Act of 3346 | | Message | yes HS is for the free market and im not. I gained 4 seats in the cabinet and many years in the position of head of government. If that is a good endorsement. PLus it is not a crazy idea to ally myself with someone unlike u. YOu are a loner who cant not get yourslef any power. In order to get a position like head of state or in the cabinet u need to work with other people. |
| Date | 05:39:37, August 09, 2012 CET |
From | Cildanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Nobility Act of 3346 | | Message | The CIP will maintain it's current policy, and are in fact proud of being an independent political party. The CIP can very well accept a coalition with other parties, if there's a common political programme. |
| Date | 05:57:00, August 09, 2012 CET |
From | The Liberal Pinks | To | Debating the Nobility Act of 3346 | | Message | And HS is proud to work with others instead of against them. We apologize for the past for betraying our brothers but have always been willing to work with other political parties to get what the nation deserves.
Both of our parties stand up for what we believe in. The difference is we work together with other people of the nation to get it done and CIP stamps their feet getting angry when they do not get what they want so HS gets things done. CIP complains about it. |
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| Vote |
Seats |
| yes | Total Seats: 319 |
| no | Total Seats: 431 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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