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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
Details
Submitted by[?]: Totalitarian Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2152
Description[?]:
Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the People's Progressive Party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Progressive Imperial Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Traxian Imperial Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Progressive Imperial Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the National Democratic Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Traxian Imperial Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Totalitarian Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the People's Progressive Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Progressive Imperial Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Traxian Imperial Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the National Democratic Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the People's Progressive Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the National Democratic Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 14:23:42, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Totalitarian Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | I feel this cabinet better represents the interests of our nation's citizens. |
Date | 14:25:54, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Traxian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | We thank you for the faith vested in our party. |
Date | 14:26:15, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Party of Gaduridos | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | We already have a cabinet proposal underway, so such a proposal is sickeningly rude. Additionally, this cabinet is highly restrictive. Look at the seats, such a cabinet is NOT representative of the will of the Gaduri people. We ask that the other parties please approach this Bill with wisdom and treat it as it deserves to be treated. |
Date | 14:29:09, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Party of Gaduridos | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | Rather than showing greed for positions of power, people should acknowledge the will of the people. Megalomania does not befit a noble people. The Great Nation of Gaduridos deserves better. |
Date | 14:36:30, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Totalitarian Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | You changed the cabinet proposal laws so that all parties were free to propose cabinets, yet you condemn me for proposing one that lacks your own party. This is exactly why I feel your party must be kept out of the cabinet. If my party was truly megalomaniac, the Totalitarian Party would be the proposed Prime Minister, rather than the People's Progressive Party. If the people truly do not support this cabinet, then this cabinet proposal will be defeated, and yours will pass. |
Date | 14:45:17, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Party of Gaduridos | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | No, we condemn your proposal because it is not even allowing for a single opinion showing support or disapproval prior to your sending it to vote. Additionally, it doesn't show the majority of parties, as the will of the people would indicate. A microcosm of our population is not representative of our whole populace. Your cabinet has been proposed in so short a time after our own... and yet, you never even waited for sensible discussion. How does my proposal differ? As the largest party, we felt it best to represent the majority of our people so soon after an election. What is your excuse, aside from a jealousy at your own seeming lack of inclusion within the cabinet?! Why are so FEW people represented? A party that wholes only 44 seats deems itself in tune with the heart of Gaduridos' population? Note, that we cannot cater to everyone, so we catered to the majority, the specialised and those that we feel best represent our fair people. |
Date | 14:48:57, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Traxian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | We will change our vote in support for the recognised largest party as a voice of the majority. |
Date | 15:00:17, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Totalitarian Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | The Totalitarian Party feels the Nationalist Party and the National Fascisti hold agendas that are not properly represented to the citizens of our nation. We feel these parties will bring only despair to Gaduridos. We feel they must be excluded from the cabinet to ensure our nation's continued prosperity. As for moving this to vote without debate, all parties are free to propose the cabinet they feel will represent our nation best. As I feel this is what is best for our nation, I moved it to vote. If another party disagrees, they are free to propose their own. I will not criticise them for it. |
Date | 15:11:19, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Party of Gaduridos | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | Discussion would help facilitate a proposal that all would agree upon... rather than allowing for a flood of such proposals to clog are parliament as you would seemingly have it. As I rationalised to your party, the only reason that 'We', sent our proposal to vote, was because it: A) Best represented a large array of parties, and, B) Did so within an hour after our last election You may 'believe', that I hold an agenda all that you like, however, the National Fascisti AND I both hold the people of Our Great Nation in high esteem. Our votes and political stances, that seemingly cater to the majority of Our fair people, are surely indicative of this fact. To bar the two parties that best represent the majority of Gaduri interests, is a sickening and oppressive fascist attempt at regulating our government and suppressing the voice of our people. Rather than celebrate diversity, you have chosen to quash it, in your Totalitarian attempts to assert your megalomaniacal self. For Shame! It is no wonder that the people think so little of you and your party. Let it be known that the NPG ARE NATIONALIST. We strive constantly to best express the views and wishes of the majority of our people. This does not mean that we believe that only OUR way is correct... nay, that is why OUR cabinet includes parties from all sides of the political spectrum, acknowledging and embracing the multitude of diversity amongst Our Great Nation and Our Great People. We bleed for Gaduridos... with every breath that we muster, we work toward the betterment of Our Great Nation... please respect that. |
Date | 15:46:45, December 06, 2005 CET | From | National Fascisti | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | Agendas? AGENDAS?! We believe it is the TOTALITARIAN PARTY that is GUILTY of having an agenda and devious ulterior motives! We saw this in the past, the Totalitarian Party turning on us when their power was waning, when we, the National Fascisti, began to win strong favour with the people; and ONCE AGAIN we see the wicked men of the Totalitarian Party try to depose us, we who have been chosen by the people! They used the abolition of religion, the oppression of people's beliefs, as a tool to hurt us!!! They OPPRESSED the people just to spite us! You dare proclaim such slanderous words against our party? Our party that the people chose, our party that fights for the people?! You try to snuff out our will, our will that is the will of THE PEOPLE!!! We will thwart your attempts to create such a FASCIST and OPPRESSIVE government! The Dark Lord's shadow clearly envelopes you, detestable fiends, and we will destory your kind and purge Gaduridos once and for all.. |
Date | 21:02:26, December 06, 2005 CET | From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | Thank you for the confidence shown in our party. Frankly since any party can make such a proposal a party is free to vote its conscious on the one it sees as best. This seems pretty good to us so we will vote yes, if it is voted down so be it, we will evaluate other proposals. Just because the Nationalist Party is a plurality does not by any means make it a majority. |
Date | 07:08:01, December 07, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Party of Gaduridos | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | We are amazed at the PPP's ability to state the obvious. The NPG is a plurality and our proposal was an address on behalf of the majority. This fact of addressal is obvious thanks to the array of different parties in different positions that we proposed. Keep in mind that our proposal ALSO included those who are pluralities... since such pluralities become such with the support of the people. In addition, we included parties ranging throughout the Gaduri hierarchy. |
Date | 19:27:10, December 07, 2005 CET | From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | Either way thats no excuse to decry and insult this proposal since the TP was simply practicing a right that you also voted to give, although we did not. |
Date | 01:32:37, December 08, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Party of Gaduridos | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151 |
Message | I explained my reasons before. It was not about the TP proposing it alone, it was the rationale behind and the 'timeliness'. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes | Total Seats: 155 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 286 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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