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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of August 2151

Details

Submitted by[?]: Totalitarian Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2152

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date14:23:42, December 06, 2005 CET
FromTotalitarian Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageI feel this cabinet better represents the interests of our nation's citizens.

Date14:25:54, December 06, 2005 CET
FromTraxian Imperial Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageWe thank you for the faith vested in our party.

Date14:26:15, December 06, 2005 CET
FromNationalist Party of Gaduridos
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageWe already have a cabinet proposal underway, so such a proposal is sickeningly rude. Additionally, this cabinet is highly restrictive. Look at the seats, such a cabinet is NOT representative of the will of the Gaduri people.

We ask that the other parties please approach this Bill with wisdom and treat it as it deserves to be treated.

Date14:29:09, December 06, 2005 CET
FromNationalist Party of Gaduridos
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageRather than showing greed for positions of power, people should acknowledge the will of the people.

Megalomania does not befit a noble people. The Great Nation of Gaduridos deserves better.

Date14:36:30, December 06, 2005 CET
FromTotalitarian Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageYou changed the cabinet proposal laws so that all parties were free to propose cabinets, yet you condemn me for proposing one that lacks your own party. This is exactly why I feel your party must be kept out of the cabinet.

If my party was truly megalomaniac, the Totalitarian Party would be the proposed Prime Minister, rather than the People's Progressive Party.

If the people truly do not support this cabinet, then this cabinet proposal will be defeated, and yours will pass.

Date14:45:17, December 06, 2005 CET
FromNationalist Party of Gaduridos
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageNo, we condemn your proposal because it is not even allowing for a single opinion showing support or disapproval prior to your sending it to vote. Additionally, it doesn't show the majority of parties, as the will of the people would indicate. A microcosm of our population is not representative of our whole populace.

Your cabinet has been proposed in so short a time after our own... and yet, you never even waited for sensible discussion.

How does my proposal differ? As the largest party, we felt it best to represent the majority of our people so soon after an election. What is your excuse, aside from a jealousy at your own seeming lack of inclusion within the cabinet?! Why are so FEW people represented? A party that wholes only 44 seats deems itself in tune with the heart of Gaduridos' population?

Note, that we cannot cater to everyone, so we catered to the majority, the specialised and those that we feel best represent our fair people.

Date14:48:57, December 06, 2005 CET
FromTraxian Imperial Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageWe will change our vote in support for the recognised largest party as a voice of the majority.

Date15:00:17, December 06, 2005 CET
FromTotalitarian Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageThe Totalitarian Party feels the Nationalist Party and the National Fascisti hold agendas that are not properly represented to the citizens of our nation. We feel these parties will bring only despair to Gaduridos. We feel they must be excluded from the cabinet to ensure our nation's continued prosperity.

As for moving this to vote without debate, all parties are free to propose the cabinet they feel will represent our nation best. As I feel this is what is best for our nation, I moved it to vote. If another party disagrees, they are free to propose their own. I will not criticise them for it.

Date15:11:19, December 06, 2005 CET
FromNationalist Party of Gaduridos
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
Message
Discussion would help facilitate a proposal that all would agree upon... rather than allowing for a flood of such proposals to clog are parliament as you would seemingly have it. As I rationalised to your party, the only reason that 'We', sent our proposal to vote, was because it:

A) Best represented a large array of parties, and,
B) Did so within an hour after our last election

You may 'believe', that I hold an agenda all that you like, however, the National Fascisti AND I both hold the people of Our Great Nation in high esteem. Our votes and political stances, that seemingly cater to the majority of Our fair people, are surely indicative of this fact. To bar the two parties that best represent the majority of Gaduri interests, is a sickening and oppressive fascist attempt at regulating our government and suppressing the voice of our people.

Rather than celebrate diversity, you have chosen to quash it, in your Totalitarian attempts to assert your megalomaniacal self.

For Shame! It is no wonder that the people think so little of you and your party.

Let it be known that the NPG ARE NATIONALIST. We strive constantly to best express the views and wishes of the majority of our people. This does not mean that we believe that only OUR way is correct... nay, that is why OUR cabinet includes parties from all sides of the political spectrum, acknowledging and embracing the multitude of diversity amongst Our Great Nation and Our Great People.

We bleed for Gaduridos... with every breath that we muster, we work toward the betterment of Our Great Nation... please respect that.

Date15:46:45, December 06, 2005 CET
FromNational Fascisti
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageAgendas? AGENDAS?!

We believe it is the TOTALITARIAN PARTY that is GUILTY of having an agenda and devious ulterior motives!

We saw this in the past, the Totalitarian Party turning on us when their power was waning, when we, the National Fascisti, began to win strong favour with the people; and ONCE AGAIN we see the wicked men of the Totalitarian Party try to depose us, we who have been chosen by the people!

They used the abolition of religion, the oppression of people's beliefs, as a tool to hurt us!!! They OPPRESSED the people just to spite us!

You dare proclaim such slanderous words against our party? Our party that the people chose, our party that fights for the people?! You try to snuff out our will, our will that is the will of THE PEOPLE!!!

We will thwart your attempts to create such a FASCIST and OPPRESSIVE government!

The Dark Lord's shadow clearly envelopes you, detestable fiends, and we will destory your kind and purge Gaduridos once and for all..

Date21:02:26, December 06, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageThank you for the confidence shown in our party. Frankly since any party can make such a proposal a party is free to vote its conscious on the one it sees as best. This seems pretty good to us so we will vote yes, if it is voted down so be it, we will evaluate other proposals. Just because the Nationalist Party is a plurality does not by any means make it a majority.

Date07:08:01, December 07, 2005 CET
FromNationalist Party of Gaduridos
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
Message
We are amazed at the PPP's ability to state the obvious.
The NPG is a plurality and our proposal was an address on behalf of the majority.
This fact of addressal is obvious thanks to the array of different parties in different positions that we proposed. Keep in mind that our proposal ALSO included those who are pluralities... since such pluralities become such with the support of the people. In addition, we included parties ranging throughout the Gaduri hierarchy.

Date19:27:10, December 07, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageEither way thats no excuse to decry and insult this proposal since the TP was simply practicing a right that you also voted to give, although we did not.

Date01:32:37, December 08, 2005 CET
FromNationalist Party of Gaduridos
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2151
MessageI explained my reasons before. It was not about the TP proposing it alone, it was the rationale behind and the 'timeliness'.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 155

no
     

Total Seats: 286

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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