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Bill: War Protection Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: The Dolgavan Conservative Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 3366
Description[?]:
| We believe if this great nation is to protect it's citizens, few changes must be made. Such as, shelters a nuclear weaponry. Minister for Defence, William Hague |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Civil defence is the government's policy on providing shelters to be used in the event of attacks on major cities, mainly nuclear attacks and bombing.
Old value:: Local authorities are responsible for building and maintaining shelters.
Current: Local authorities are responsible for building and maintaining shelters.
Proposed: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Current: The nation reserves the right to nuclear weapons in retaliation to a nuclear, chemical or biological attack.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons on non-civilian areas.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The policy with respect to nuclear weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never produce or store nuclear weaponry for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:00:49, September 09, 2012 CET | From | Vigs Partija ('Whigs') | To | Debating the War Protection Bill |
| Message | Articles 2 & 3 are fine, but we support localism in principle and have problems with article 1. |
| Date | 18:29:16, September 10, 2012 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the War Protection Bill |
| Message | We would generally have the same position as the Whigs, however we are accepting of Article 1 because then the national government can oversee and ensure the continuity of the shelters. |
| Date | 18:46:31, September 10, 2012 CET | From | Progressive Green Party | To | Debating the War Protection Bill |
| Message | We're against this due to articles 2 and 3. |
| Date | 17:24:15, September 11, 2012 CET | From | The Dolgavan Conservative Party | To | Debating the War Protection Bill |
| Message | We believe the same as you whigs but as a nation we must make sure it happens which is why I set that |
| Date | 19:31:35, September 15, 2012 CET | From | Traditionalist Party | To | Debating the War Protection Bill |
| Message | We agree with article 1 and 2, shelters for war should be lead by the government and we should be able to store a number of nuclear weapons. But we do not agree on article 3, nuclear weapons should never be used on any nation, civilian or not. We believe the whole point of nuclear weapons is too stop wars, not used freely during wars on non-civilian areas. As nuclear attacks usually provoke the enemy more, we will vote against this act. |
| Date | 20:33:28, September 15, 2012 CET | From | The Dolgavan Conservative Party | To | Debating the War Protection Bill |
| Message | Traditionalists you have contradicted yourself, we should store nuclear weapons, pay the money to create and store them, but never use them, please explain why u think we should store but not use them? |
| Date | 22:40:59, September 15, 2012 CET | From | Traditionalist Party | To | Debating the War Protection Bill |
| Message | Well its pretty simple really, nuclear weaponry will be stored, but not used. Country's that have nuclear weapons don't want to use them on other country's that have nuclear weapons because the threat of the other firing back would be bad for both sides. So the enemy wouldn't fire. Say though the enemy wanted to fire nuclear missiles at us, they would know we had them and would be hesitant to fire them. Hopefully any civilized nation would never use weapons like this, Dolgava being one of them. Why would we need a law for using nuclear weapons if we have no intentions on using them. And if we do have intention of using the weapons then how can we call Dolgava civilized? If you use a nuclear missile on a country they will not hesitate one bit to fire theres. The fact it is on non-civilian areas changes nothing we still used the weapon, we still had the sick-twisted minds to even consider that nuclear weapons are a valid option. It is more of a "I clean my hands of anything involved with this" (Much like Pontus Pilot) statement, just in case it ends up being the wrong decision. |
| Date | 23:32:51, September 15, 2012 CET | From | The Dolgavan Conservative Party | To | Debating the War Protection Bill |
| Message | i still disagree, you said in your statement, we dont intend to use them, but we do, I strongly feel that what your saying is, if the other side attacked us, we would attack their civilian areas, which the DCP very very strongly disagrees, Article 3 is not to use the weapons, but to stop the military from using them on nuclear areas. |
| Date | 09:29:32, September 16, 2012 CET | From | The Dolgavan Conservative Party | To | Debating the War Protection Bill |
| Message | civilian* |
| Date | 12:12:16, September 16, 2012 CET | From | Traditionalist Party | To | Debating the War Protection Bill |
| Message | But firing nuclear weaponry does not solve the problem of war, it will just make good propaganda story in the country we're fighting against. We will still vote no. On moral ground firing a nuclear device at another nation is wrong. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 188 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 63 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: When your party holds the foreign affairs department, you can create new treaties. However, before writing anything new, it is a good idea to search for existing treaties which already accomplish what you desire. |
| Random quote: "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun... our principle is to have the Party control the gun and never allow the gun to control the Party." - Mao Zedong |