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Bill: Weapons Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rightist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2157
Description[?]:
| TBA |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, but these may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Current: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Proposed: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:09:34, December 08, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Weapons Act |
| Message | Is it really wise to allow citizens to walk the streets with ak-47s? I am all for allowing citizens to be armed but with this law, the citizens could be better equipped than our police force and army. Furthermore, these weapons could be concealed so I think if it this law is even to be considered we should add a clause where either people must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons or some categories of weapon must be carried openly, others may be concealed. If one of these was added to this bill, we would be willing to considering heavily for giving our support for this action. |
| Date | 11:58:34, December 08, 2005 CET | From | One Nation Socialist Party | To | Debating the Weapons Act |
| Message | this will make it very risky for the police when trying to differenciate between criminals and law abiders. This will make the job of the police even harder.Especially when a father acompanies his familly on a nice quite walk, with one arm around his wife, the other firmly grasping an RPG,l do they keep an eye on him?, could they be terrorists. This would make our society an even more dangerous place to live, Criminals/terrorists could pose as normal citizens walking down the street before striking at their targets and there firepower would match that of the police who would have no warning. This bill hasn't been thought out, the possible consequences haven't been thought of. I would like to propose that only those who carry strict gun licenses may own guns but may not carry them in public. If people aren't allowed to carry guns in public then the police would be able to operate more efficiently. |
| Date | 21:58:43, December 08, 2005 CET | From | Patriot Party | To | Debating the Weapons Act |
| Message | We'll oppose the measure for the same reasons as the redneck party has stated. ONCP, if guns are gone then the people will be left vulnerable to the criminals that will get guns. |
| Date | 07:54:52, December 09, 2005 CET | From | Social-Conservative party | To | Debating the Weapons Act |
| Message | We oppose this act most harshly, Violoence should be monopolized purely by Law enforcement and Military, we shall not give the people the weapons to start civil wars and such things. |
| Date | 19:48:27, December 09, 2005 CET | From | One Nation Socialist Party | To | Debating the Weapons Act |
| Message | the police are there to protect the people and can therefore differenciate between criminals and law-abiders simply by whether the suspect has a gun or not. I do not think criminals randomly go on killing sprees, so that people would need heavy weapons to defend themselves. Also armed citizens would be more dangerous to criminals than unarmed people and would therefore be in more danger. |
| Date | 20:46:54, December 10, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Weapons Act |
| Message | Good I like the fact that criminals would bein more danger. |
| Date | 15:34:04, December 14, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Weapons Act |
| Message | Wait? Armed civilians will be endangered from an attack by armed thugs? Are you sure about this? |
| Date | 16:51:02, December 16, 2005 CET | From | Inactive | To | Debating the Weapons Act |
| Message | There must be a limit to this "right". |
| Date | 18:13:41, December 18, 2005 CET | From | Patriot Party | To | Debating the Weapons Act |
| Message | The Tribal Council has rejected this b ill. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 59 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 240 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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