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Bill: Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hausu Serujaku-Rabuzubāgu
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3389
Description[?]:
In this act, we the legal government of the Imperial Crownland declare that His Imperial Majesty's Armed Forces are to be reorganised in light of the democratic and peaceful revolution that has taken place within the Crownlands. As the armed forces are no longer only an army of Greater Hulstria but an army of all the people of the Crownlands, including the colonies, they are to be renamed the Nationale Kronelander Volksarmee (NKVA) or Kokumin kanryou mingun (國民冠領民軍). This National Crownlander Peoples Army will be officially neutral, owning no allegiance to either Hulstria or Gao-Soto as sovereign entities, but only to the Crownlands as a indivisible whole and to the Constitution. This strong national army will have no connections to private interests, and will act as a counterweight to the paramilitaries. This army shall be built on the ideological foundation of service to the People and the Constitution and shall be given full powers to enforce the law by any means necessary. Soldiers will serve in integrated units and shall be well versed in both the martial traditions of East and West. In order to strengthen the Crownlands, all adults will serve in the Peoples Army and civilian national service is hereby eliminated. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Current: The state owns all defence industries.
Proposed: The state owns all defence industries.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Discrimination in the military on grounds of race/religion.
Old value:: The government does not interfere with the military over who can serve in it.
Current: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Proposed: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women serve in segregated units.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women serve alongside men.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 22:01:24, October 30, 2012 CET | From | Hōōkai | To | Debating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388 |
Message | We support. OOC: You got the name in Engrish, not Japanese. I would suggest (with traditional characters) 國民冠領民軍 (Kokumin kanryou mingun), if you could translate "Crownlands" as 冠領. I am not entirely sure, though. |
Date | 03:40:13, October 31, 2012 CET | From | Kokumin Doumei / Nationale Allianz | To | Debating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388 |
Message | We support all articles except article one. However, we will propose amendment to it, while supporting this bill at large for now. OOC: Technically Crownland IS translated as 冠領 or 帝冠領, if done literally. Something in me tells me that it is not how it should be done. Hmm... |
Date | 19:21:46, October 31, 2012 CET | From | Königstreue Sozialdemokraten | To | Debating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388 |
Message | We are not comfortable with the idea of the military becoming the sole police force over the nation. Even if the army is composed of "ordinary citizens" it is dangerous to place our military in charge of day-to-day law enforcement. |
Date | 09:53:02, November 01, 2012 CET | From | Kokumin Doumei / Nationale Allianz | To | Debating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388 |
Message | Why is it dangerous? |
Date | 22:39:54, November 01, 2012 CET | From | Königstreue Sozialdemokraten | To | Debating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388 |
Message | The military is trained for combat and for defending our nation against armed hostile forces, usually of another nation. Why should we expand their duties to include the day-to-day law enforcement, which often involves cars being pulled over, domestic disputes, or on the most serious scale, a murder investigation. It makes most sense to have a civilian police force which focuses on these domestic issues. Domestically the only part the military should have is maintaining peace in national violent protest or in emergencies have the role of aiding recovery. |
Date | 03:33:33, November 02, 2012 CET | From | Kokumin Doumei / Nationale Allianz | To | Debating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388 |
Message | What our honourable colleagues is arguing for is that it is "inefficient" for a military to do the job for the civilian police, which is not entirely dangerous for itself. While it is true to an extent, that military force is usually not trained for daily crimes and other nuisances, it should be noted that military police can, and has been used to maintain peace among the population as well (gendarmerie). We believe that, with the military being the main source of peace among the people with their firepower and ability to dispatch anything short of an organised armed force, it will prove better to maintain the fragile harmony after the recent political turmoil. When the new power structure established by the dual-state is stablised in the future, we believe such policy will then be subjected to revision, but for now, we believe it is important for us to maintain stability, even if it is not the most efficient choice by appearance. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 64 | |||
no | Total Seats: 6 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 5 |
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