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Bill: Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388

Details

Submitted by[?]: Hausu Serujaku-Rabuzubāgu

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 3389

Description[?]:

In this act, we the legal government of the Imperial Crownland declare that His Imperial Majesty's Armed Forces are to be reorganised in light of the democratic and peaceful revolution that has taken place within the Crownlands. As the armed forces are no longer only an army of Greater Hulstria but an army of all the people of the Crownlands, including the colonies, they are to be renamed the Nationale Kronelander Volksarmee (NKVA) or Kokumin kanryou mingun (國民冠領民軍). This National Crownlander Peoples Army will be officially neutral, owning no allegiance to either Hulstria or Gao-Soto as sovereign entities, but only to the Crownlands as a indivisible whole and to the Constitution. This strong national army will have no connections to private interests, and will act as a counterweight to the paramilitaries.

This army shall be built on the ideological foundation of service to the People and the Constitution and shall be given full powers to enforce the law by any means necessary. Soldiers will serve in integrated units and shall be well versed in both the martial traditions of East and West. In order to strengthen the Crownlands, all adults will serve in the Peoples Army and civilian national service is hereby eliminated.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:01:24, October 30, 2012 CET
FromHōōkai
ToDebating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388
MessageWe support.

OOC: You got the name in Engrish, not Japanese. I would suggest (with traditional characters) 國民冠領民軍
(Kokumin kanryou mingun), if you could translate "Crownlands" as 冠領. I am not entirely sure, though.

Date03:40:13, October 31, 2012 CET
FromKokumin Doumei / Nationale Allianz
ToDebating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388
MessageWe support all articles except article one. However, we will propose amendment to it, while supporting this bill at large for now.

OOC: Technically Crownland IS translated as 冠領 or 帝冠領, if done literally. Something in me tells me that it is not how it should be done. Hmm...

Date19:21:46, October 31, 2012 CET
FromKönigstreue Sozialdemokraten
ToDebating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388
MessageWe are not comfortable with the idea of the military becoming the sole police force over the nation. Even if the army is composed of "ordinary citizens" it is dangerous to place our military in charge of day-to-day law enforcement.

Date09:53:02, November 01, 2012 CET
FromKokumin Doumei / Nationale Allianz
ToDebating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388
MessageWhy is it dangerous?

Date22:39:54, November 01, 2012 CET
FromKönigstreue Sozialdemokraten
ToDebating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388
MessageThe military is trained for combat and for defending our nation against armed hostile forces, usually of another nation.
Why should we expand their duties to include the day-to-day law enforcement, which often involves cars being pulled over, domestic disputes, or on the most serious scale, a murder investigation. It makes most sense to have a civilian police force which focuses on these domestic issues. Domestically the only part the military should have is maintaining peace in national violent protest or in emergencies have the role of aiding recovery.

Date03:33:33, November 02, 2012 CET
FromKokumin Doumei / Nationale Allianz
ToDebating the Reorganisation of the Armed Forces Act of March 3388
MessageWhat our honourable colleagues is arguing for is that it is "inefficient" for a military to do the job for the civilian police, which is not entirely dangerous for itself. While it is true to an extent, that military force is usually not trained for daily crimes and other nuisances, it should be noted that military police can, and has been used to maintain peace among the population as well (gendarmerie). We believe that, with the military being the main source of peace among the people with their firepower and ability to dispatch anything short of an organised armed force, it will prove better to maintain the fragile harmony after the recent political turmoil. When the new power structure established by the dual-state is stablised in the future, we believe such policy will then be subjected to revision, but for now, we believe it is important for us to maintain stability, even if it is not the most efficient choice by appearance.

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Voting

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Total Seats: 64

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Total Seats: 6

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Total Seats: 5


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