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Bill: Universities Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2154
Description[?]:
| To promote Higher Education in Mordusia. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education institutions.
Old value:: The government leaves the development and funding of all higher education institutions up to local governments.
Current: The government maintains a system of universities nationwide.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of universities nationwide.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:58:36, December 09, 2005 CET | From | Unio Liberál daď Ordio Mordusián | To | Debating the Universities Bill |
| Message | As we support devolution we couldn't agree on this bill. |
| Date | 21:27:19, December 09, 2005 CET | From | Country Labor Party | To | Debating the Universities Bill |
| Message | The FP offers no other reason for approving this proposal and the billions it would cost than that it would "promote Higher Education in Mordusia". Our believe our existing universities are both adequate and competent. And we still do not believe it is the function of the national government to operate a set of national universities. |
| Date | 21:40:21, December 09, 2005 CET | From | Country Labor Party | To | Debating the Universities Bill |
| Message | We would also note that this proposal was one of the non-negotiable demands of the Communists leading up to the 2153 election. |
| Date | 22:26:50, December 09, 2005 CET | From | Left Socialist Party | To | Debating the Universities Bill |
| Message | We agree, but think that also colleges and vocational schools should be installed. However, we can live with this proposal as a (temporary) compromise. one remark to the CLP: we do not prefer to be called "Communists". This word has a very negative connotation, with references to a political authoritarian system called "Stalinism", even tough scientificaly speaking Communism neither Socialism has anything to do with authoritaritarism. The LSP believes in a democratic control of the workers over industry and government, as you can read in our party description. We have proved with our legislative work of NEVER putting forward authoritarian demands. If you think we do, you should put forward wich one... If not, stop creating a negative political climate in this assembly by insulting other democratic parties... |
| Date | 22:28:10, December 09, 2005 CET | From | Left Socialist Party | To | Debating the Universities Bill |
| Message | We agree, but think that also colleges and vocational schools should be installed. However, we can live with this proposal as a (temporary) compromise. one remark to the CLP: we do not prefer to be called "Communists". This word has a very negative connotation, with references to a political authoritarian system called "Stalinism", even tough scientificaly speaking Communism neither Socialism has anything to do with authoritaritarism. The LSP believes in a democratic control of the workers over industry and government, as you can read in our party description. We have proved with our legislative work of NEVER putting forward authoritarian demands. If you think we do, you should put forward wich one... If not, stop creating a negative political climate in this assembly by insulting other democratic parties... |
| Date | 00:16:15, December 10, 2005 CET | From | Federalist Party | To | Debating the Universities Bill |
| Message | As proponents of a national, united, government that promotes the good of the nation. This bill promotes the good of the nation. We thank the LSP for their support and we would be willing to support the new proposal if other parties are willing to join the Feds in adding vocational schools to the list. |
| Date | 04:30:50, December 10, 2005 CET | From | Country Labor Party | To | Debating the Universities Bill |
| Message | The statement "This bill promotes the good of the nation" hardly justifies spending billions to set up a parallel system of addition universities. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 139 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 164 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Don't vote yes on a cabinet coalition that doesn't give you the power that you deserve. |
| Random quote: "Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people." - Oscar Wilde |