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Bill: Motion to End Relations with Hulstria.

Details

Submitted by[?]: Imperial Aristocratic League

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 3414

Description[?]:

Members of this most esteemed body,

It is with the most regrettable news that I inform you that our once great friend and ally, The Imperial Crownlands of Hulstria, has fallen to what appears to be extreme left-wing communists. What was once thought unthinkable is now, I believe, our only option. The Holy Luthori Empire must end all diplomatic relations with this now rogue state until a time in which the rightful Imperial Family is once again on the throne. Should this motion pass we also propose that these measure be immediately undertaken

1.
a. All travel to Hulstria from Luthori is hereby ceased
b. All Luthorian and Royalist Hulstrians from Hulstria be given safe haven should they choose to flee.

2. A Naval task force be sent to provide security and stability as all Luthorian personal evacuate the country. This task force would also assist private citizens fleeing the country.

3. Closure of the Luthorian Embassy and cutting of all diplomatic relations between Luthori and the illegitimate government of Hulstria.

4. Imperial Fleets 4 and 5 be dispatched to the area to begin a blockade of the country.
Imperial Fleet 6 be put on high alert, and that Imperial Fleet 3 be put on stand by.

5. That any further actions deemed necessary concerning this situation by the Privy Council and the Diet Cabinet, that this body gives approval for them to be carried out. This includes a declaration of full scale war if need be.

http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=368233
http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=53&start=400

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date05:35:26, December 16, 2012 CET
FromImperial Aristocratic League
ToDebating the Motion to End Relations with Hulstria.
MessageMr. Speaker,

The ILA would also support sending security teams to protect the business interests of Luthori, however left that out of discussion as that could escalate things much further.

We seek our allies opinions on this matter. Especially the INA, who haas a long history in dealing with Luthori-Hulstria relations.

I Yield
Arthur Price
Imperial Seal Bearer
Lord Privy Seal
Duke of Utagia

Date15:10:57, December 16, 2012 CET
From Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund
ToDebating the Motion to End Relations with Hulstria.
Message(OOC: Sorry to hijack your thread. I'm currently roleplaying the Hulstrian opposition. Would you consent to harbouring several of the leaders of the 15th of September Movement?)

A group of Bishops from the Luthoran Church of Hulstria has requested that Luthori act to end the persecution of Hosians, both Luthorans and Selucian Patriarchals, in Hulstria and Gao-Soto. (http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=53&p=49735#p49735)

The 15th of September Movement, the united coalition of the Hulstrian opposition forces, would also be grateful for the assistance of Luthori in restoring our country to its proper values and government.

Date01:27:31, December 17, 2012 CET
FromImperial Conservative Union (IA)
ToDebating the Motion to End Relations with Hulstria.
MessageMr. Speaker,

Our cousins;our family; our Senior Branch of the very Dynasty from which His Most Excellent and Imperial Majesty's blood blows from is in jeopardy. After hundreds of years of being firmly under the stable government of the Kaisers, we see the other half of our esteemed and invincible "Terran Empire" in chaos and collapse!!! Our brothers, our sisters, our allies and friends are being held captive, against their will, and are in danger of losing their lives!!

We should not simply cower away and back down!!! NO!!! Never!!! (shouts of here here from the benches)
We are Luthori!!! It is we who rule the waves!!! It is we are the Super Power of Terra!!! It is we who are the Masters of the peoples and lands under Gods eyes!!! We created the era of Pax Luthoria, and it will be us who maintains it!!!

I state that we do more than what is being proposed here, but rally the very body that for centuries Hulstria has helped lead; the body whose sole reason for existence is to fight the fight of righteousness, providence, and stability; We will rally the International Monarchist League, and all the monarchist and monarchs in Terra to our cause. We will take Hulstria back!!!

Men, Soldiers, Knights and Legions of Luthori!!! Beat the Drums of War once again. Send the Fleet forward into battle, and bring down these vile daemons of death and destruction to throne of God, so that he may cast them back into the Pits of Hell!!!!

We must save our allies, we must save our brethren, our Emperor's very own family!!! Gentelmen, it is time for the Holy Luthori Empire to end this era of allowing Terra to run its own course, and it is time that we bring the order of those born to rule to Terra once again.

Let us free Hulstria!!! Save the Kaiser!!! And BRING DOWN THE MIGHT OF "THE TERRAN EMPIRE" UPON THESE REBELS!!!

For Hulstria!!!! For the Kaiser and our Emperor!!! And for God!!!

(rounds of applause from the benches)

I yield.
Prince Henry d'Orange-Villayn,
Prince of Mordus,
Prince-Imperial of the Holy Luthori Empire & of Alduria,
Prime Minister of the Holy Luthori Empire,
& Lord President of the Privy Council

Date01:28:59, December 17, 2012 CET
FromImperial Conservative Union (IA)
ToDebating the Motion to End Relations with Hulstria.
MessageOOC: Luthori, as the home of the IML, has historically always been the refuge of Monarchist across Terra. So if there are monarchist in the movement, and they support restoring the Kaiser then the movement could of course be based in Luthori.

Date09:35:00, December 17, 2012 CET
From Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund
ToDebating the Motion to End Relations with Hulstria.
MessageOOC: Of course the 15th September Movement are largely monarchist. I play them, and the HDV (my previous party that forms the movement's core, was as monarchist as any Hulstrian, so I first of all want the Rothingren-Traugotts back. Seeing as I have no control over the Okatori Clan, I might not be able to reinstate the dual monarchy, so that would end my problem of having to deal with that. For RP purposes, however, I need to bring Hulstria and Gao-Soto back, it's the only realistic action. Sad though it may be, Greater Hulstria is probably a thing of the past as they have managed to increase the Gao-Showa numbers in the Cultural Protocol)

Date16:29:20, December 17, 2012 CET
FromImperial Conservative Union (IA)
ToDebating the Motion to End Relations with Hulstria.
MessageOOC: That is fine, we can deal with bring back Greater Hulstria (even if it is by military force) over time after we have restored order.

Date19:32:22, December 19, 2012 CET
FromImperial Conservative Union (IA)
ToDebating the Motion to End Relations with Hulstria.
MessageMr. Speaker,

We ask that this be brought to the floor to a vote. However, that the following be added.

That Imperial Fleets 4 and 5 be dispatched to the area to begin a blockade of the country.
That Imperial Fleet 6 be put on high alert, and that Imperial Fleet 3 be put on stand by.

That any further actions deemed necessary concerning this situation by the Privy Council and the Diet Cabinet, that this body gives approval for them to be carried out. This includes a declaration of full scale war if need be.

With those three amendments, we will vote aye in this motion.

I yield.

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Voting

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    Total Seats: 85


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