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Bill: A second attempt to fix our budget.

Details

Submitted by^[?]: Luthori Green Party

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 2156

Description^[?]:

For Luthori to prosper, we need to develop.

To develop, we need to spend.

Proposals

Article 1

Ministry	Current Budget	Old Budget	Propesed Budget
Head of Government	200,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	2,000,000,000 LPD
Foreign Affairs	2,500,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	6,000,000,000 LPD
Internal Affairs	10,000,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	8,000,000,000 LPD
Finance	1,000,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	4,000,000,000 LPD
Defence	17,000,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	8,000,000,000 LPD
Justice	6,500,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	6,000,000,000 LPD
Infrastructure and Transport	12,000,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	8,000,000,000 LPD
Health and Social Services	30,000,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	8,000,000,000 LPD
Education and Culture	13,500,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	8,000,000,000 LPD
Science and Technology	3,500,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	8,000,000,000 LPD
Food and Agriculture	3,500,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	8,000,000,000 LPD
Environment and Tourism	3,000,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	8,000,000,000 LPD
Trade and Industry	3,500,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	8,000,000,000 LPD
Total	106,200,000,000 LPD	0 LPD	90,000,000,000 LPD

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	10:24:18, December 11, 2005 CET
From	Covenanters (IA)
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	You've got all wrong. To provide economic growth the government has to stop taking money out of the economy by REDUCING tax and spending. There is no precedent for taxing an economy out of a recession!

Date	13:23:40, December 11, 2005 CET
From	Luthori Green Party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	This is not a recession, our economy was destroyed by a removal of government services and the public sector. We need to repair the damage.

Date	15:31:56, December 11, 2005 CET
From	Covenanters (IA)
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	Rubbish. It's not the govt's job to coerce money out of people for services they don't use. Paying for services directly, with a small welfare state to help those who genuinely can't, is the only fair way.

Date	15:52:50, December 11, 2005 CET
From	Luthori Green Party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	In an ideal world that would work, and I would support that, but until that ideal world is create, this is the best we can do.

Date	17:38:09, December 11, 2005 CET
From	Redneck Party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	Too much spending.

Date	18:13:41, December 11, 2005 CET
From	Luthori Green Party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	It is vital to our plan to return Luthori to the 22nd century.

Date	04:17:17, December 12, 2005 CET
From	Luthori Green Party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	With this bill, we will still have a surplus of 10,000,000,000 LPD!!!

Date	13:07:08, December 12, 2005 CET
From	Covenanters (IA)
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	The poor taxpayers don't have a surplus, DO THEY?

Date	16:37:45, December 12, 2005 CET
From	Luthori Green Party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	Yes, they do since the poor don't pay tax under my recently accepted changes the tax system.

Date	17:54:40, December 12, 2005 CET
From	Seosavists Republican party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	I'll vote for this and then we can give a tax break.

Date	04:45:50, December 13, 2005 CET
From	Luthori Green Party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	Yeah, a ten billion pound tax break for the poor!!!

Date	09:42:59, December 13, 2005 CET
From	Covenanters (IA)
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	What gives you the right to GIVE something that isn't yours, something that was COERCED from hard working successful people, to the people who never contributed in the first place? Any tax break should be in the form of a tax REBATE to those who paid it in the first place!

Date	14:01:10, December 13, 2005 CET
From	Luthori Green Party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	I sort of meant that we should reduce our income tax by then billion dollars.

Date	15:45:05, December 13, 2005 CET
From	Luthori Green Party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	*ten

Date	20:31:16, December 14, 2005 CET
From	Seosavists Republican party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	put it to vote.

Date	09:56:45, December 15, 2005 CET
From	Luthori Green Party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	What does the politcal right have against spending government money to help people?

Date	10:40:16, December 15, 2005 CET
From	Covenanters (IA)
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	The key words are "spending government money". It's not "government money", it's taxpayer's money and they should be able to spend it how they choose: not have it coerced from them and spent by the government.

Date	13:31:51, December 15, 2005 CET
From	Luthori Green Party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	Any money fairly taxed by the government can and should be spent on helping the people. Anything else is a crime. Oh, the notion that tax=coersion is definately false. A tax policy where the poor pay more than they can afford, on the other hand, is theft.

Date	13:34:33, December 15, 2005 CET
From	Covenanters (IA)
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	By the way: Wegason and Wouter say all the infrastructure stats are completely random at the moment. Until the economy is fully implemented you could tax everyone 100% and spend it all and we'd still have no public services!

Date	18:01:26, December 15, 2005 CET
From	Seosavists Republican party
To	Debating the A second attempt to fix our budget.
Message	How come they are all keep going down?

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Voting

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Seats

yes

Seosavists Republican party (112)
Luthori Green Party (85)

Total Seats: 197

Redneck Party (156)
Covenanters (IA) (120)

Total Seats: 276

abstain

Total Seats: 277

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