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Bill: Big Government Bill
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2154
Description[?]:
| A Bill for Big Government |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on advertising
Old value:: All advertising is permitted.
Current: Only governmental organisation advertising is permitted.
Proposed: Only governmental organisation advertising is permitted.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Eminent Domain.
Old value:: The government may not seize private property.
Current: The government may seize private property for vital government works and for corporate use.
Proposed: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards fireworks.
Old value:: Local governments determine fireworks laws.
Current: Only adults are allowed to purchase fireworks
Proposed: Professionals may run licensed fireworks shows, small fireworks are legal to the general public.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The right to gamble.
Old value:: The legality of gambling is a matter of local governments.
Current: Only small-scale gambling is allowed, involving limited amounts of money; casinos are illegal.
Proposed: Gambling is legal, but only in private homes and casinos with special licences.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: Certain industries are owned by the state, all others are under private ownership.
Current: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Proposed: All industry is owned and operated by the state.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Positive discrimination.
Old value:: No form of positive discrimination is permitted.
Current: The government discriminates against minorities in its hiring.
Proposed: The government discriminates against minorities in its hiring.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:49:31, December 11, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Socialist Party | To | Debating the Big Government Bill |
| Message | Article 1 and 6 seem kinda totalitarian and fascist but otherwise Im in. |
| Date | 16:12:26, December 11, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Socialist Party | To | Debating the Big Government Bill |
| Message | You don't know how to compromise do you? |
| Date | 18:09:10, December 11, 2005 CET | From | Market Socialist Party | To | Debating the Big Government Bill |
| Message | We will not support even a sigal article here and we will gladly vote against this horrid piece of legislation. |
| Date | 19:31:28, December 11, 2005 CET | From | Jacobites | To | Debating the Big Government Bill |
| Message | GWUA: I don't know how to compromise? Here you have a bill, of which 2/3rds you support, and yet you vote against. That is a lack of compromise, why should I radically alter my bill to appease a bunch of Trade Unionists who aren't even prepared to support state control of their industries. |
| Date | 19:55:15, December 11, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Front | To | Debating the Big Government Bill |
| Message | We don't like the first and last articles either. We don't mind the stuff in the middle. We really would prefer that you did these bills seperately, because lumping them all together makes us need to vote no. |
| Date | 20:54:22, December 11, 2005 CET | From | Jacobites | To | Debating the Big Government Bill |
| Message | Just trying to see what is more important to you, socialism, or a few civil liberties, time and time again you reject socialism. |
| Date | 21:13:27, December 11, 2005 CET | From | Aldurian Libertarian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Big Government Bill |
| Message | This bill is a totalitarian overthrow attemp. We will oppose. |
| Date | 00:57:06, December 12, 2005 CET | From | Jacobites | To | Debating the Big Government Bill |
| Message | What? Why make silly noises like that. Who are we attempting to overthrow? Why do socialist parties never like state control of their industry? Obviously I am not expecting you to support this bill, but to be totally opposed to the socialist two/thirds of it strikes me as a tad bizarre. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 150 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 219 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 32 |
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