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Bill: Public Safety Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Socialists of Endralon
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2050
Description[?]:
| The availability of firearms in Endralon is posing a serious danger to our citizens whether through deliberate gun crime or due to accidents. We therefore believe that in order to end these preventable injuries and deaths it is necessary to ban such deadly weapons both from the public and from the police force who may use them in unjustified circumstances or to enforce the will of a future authoritarian government. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Current: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Proposed: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers carry standard firearms.
Current: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Proposed: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:34:51, May 09, 2005 CET | From |  MLC Old Endralonian Resistance | To | Debating the Public Safety Act |
| Message | whilst eventually the people must have free access to firearms to forma peoples militia during the socialist/capitalist interim firearms will only act to cause social disorder and imbalance between individuals who use them for their own gain over others. |
| Date | 22:57:13, May 09, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Public Safety Act |
| Message | This bill is absurd. How do you expect a disarmed populace to be able to fight for socialism if the need arises? How do you expect a disarmed police to handle armed criminals? You are suicidal. |
| Date | 22:59:04, May 09, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Public Safety Act |
| Message | Those who are too eager to disarm the workers should remember what happened to Salvador Allende. |
| Date | 23:22:50, May 09, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialists of Endralon | To | Debating the Public Safety Act |
| Message | The bill is about creating a safer society for everyone by reducing preventable injuries and deaths caused by firearms. We don't believe it will prevent the fight for socialism as the police will also be disarmed and if the majority of the population are involved in the struggle they will not necessarily need guns. Banning guns will also make it much more difficult for criminals to obtain them and the police will still have access to non lethal weapons. |
| Date | 00:32:43, May 10, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Public Safety Act |
| Message | The police might be disarmed, but the military won't. And neither will any paramilitary forces that a capitalist superpower may fund. As for criminals, while it will be more difficult to get guns, they will also be able to wreck far more havoc and destruction if they DO manage to obtain guns. |
| Date | 04:03:04, May 10, 2005 CET | From | MLC Old Endralonian Resistance | To | Debating the Public Safety Act |
| Message | I mostly agree with you , this was a tough decision for me , but I think a capitalistic mindset and a gun culture combined lead to a dangerous destabilisation of codependance within the proletariat . Fear is a factor which seperates the people from one another and guns increase this fear . If our nation were further into socialism and more community minded I would stand firmly against this bill, as it is I find this a necessary evil. |
| Date | 17:53:25, May 10, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Public Safety Act |
| Message | You'll never get rid of the capitalist mindset without an armed populace, since you'll never be able to establish and defend socialism without an armed populace. |
| Date | 18:26:13, May 10, 2005 CET | From | MLC Old Endralonian Resistance | To | Debating the Public Safety Act |
| Message | hmm ok (I'm still not sure if I'd support this RL) but seeing the definite progression to socialism within endralon I'm changing my vote |
| Date | 18:32:20, May 10, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Public Safety Act |
| Message | Thank you! (and remember that we're pretty close to socialism In Endralon right now - in fact, if the game had an economy, we'd be fully socialist already) |
| Date | 18:51:09, May 10, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialists of Endralon | To | Debating the Public Safety Act |
| Message | Endralon certainly is progressing towards socialism but through the democratic process and it is therefore unnecessary for the workers to have access to weapons. It is also false to believe that once a socialist society is created crime and violence will immediately disappear and the banning of firearms will still provide the public with a higher degree of safety. |
| Date | 19:31:12, May 10, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Public Safety Act |
| Message | Disarming the police certainly won't provide the public with a higher degree of safety. And establishing socialism is one thing, actually KEEPING it is another. Salvador Allende came to power democratically, but when he tried to establish socialism, he was violently overthrown by a US-sponsored military coup. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 94 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 300 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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