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Bill: The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Communist Party of Kafuristan

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 2176

Description[?]:

To fit our new name a wee bit better.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:35:04, December 11, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageWhat exactly is operation red darn?
I hope it passes our procedures, that is, if it could.

It must pass the Commitee of Internal Security, then it must be aproved by the Commitee of National Security( a sub-commitee of the Commitee of Internal Security). Then it must be reconized and rubber stamped by the Investigation of National Rights Division and then be vetoed by the Anti-War Council led by the Economic Party and the Hasselhoffs Values Party. Then you must file forms ABH-125 to ZXN-923 from the National Peace Authority to the National Security Agency's Kafuristani Peace Commitee.

If it passes all those procedures in place, then you may request to know what procedures Operation Red Darn needs to pass.

Date03:36:57, December 13, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageWhat does those thing have to do with the military? What dowes it have to do with rights? This treaty and bill deals with random things.

Date03:40:56, December 13, 2005 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageYou really don't know when to shut up, do you? Operation: Red Dawn isn't official yet, so it needs a cover name.

Date20:27:20, December 20, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageI'm not the one who named this bill Operation Red Rawn, then changed it to 'Military Rights'. Like deprivatizing prostitiution and making it a state monopoly has anything to do...when actrually it does have to do with the military. But still, The Economic Party keeps several copies of the documents at the National Archives in Pabeus.

Date20:30:26, December 20, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageErr, spelling error...." do...while actrually it does have to do with the military. But still, ".

Date23:35:51, December 23, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageTo: Communist Party ONLY

These records are highly incriminating, Communist Party leaders could be prosecuted for a revolt. If you support me during the election, I could have some records in our archives to be, 'lost'. Though I doubt you could bribe the guards at the archives, we only have private medical care, and it's expensive. Alot of them need pills or have kids that need orthodontics work, highly costly, though a deal with our lobbyists gives them nice healthcare insurance, I doubt would they risk losing their health insurance for you Commies. Investigators could be bribed and sent to, 'investigate' you. And if you revolt, the government will break down and we shall deploy Private Security Companies to pick up the pieces.

FROM: CLASSIFIED INFORMATION

Date05:47:16, December 24, 2005 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageThis "revolt" as you call it shall now be made entirely public. All recieved records from the Economic Party shall be disclosed at request. This "revolt" is to be voted on under the circumstances that the people fairly elect the Communist Party of Kafuristan to a majority of the seats. We have no secrets.

Date01:45:11, December 25, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageCommie dogs, your opinion shall be crushed, we shall continue to remain anonymous and records from our private archives are can't be disclosed unless the justice department shall force it from our cold dead hands.

Date06:09:43, December 26, 2005 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageWE have letters on file that you and your "anonymous" members have sent...the people can judge your party's actions either way, and there shall be little struggle over convincing them of your part in the anonymous letters. If a lie told often enough becomes truth, just imagine the impact of the likely truth told often enough.

Date07:26:46, December 26, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageOCC: Letters? We were debating in the Parliament during after hours.

Logically, if Lie Told Often = Truth therefor Truth told often = Lie. *gasp* YOU ARE SPREADING LIES AND PROPAGANDA! YOU ARE ALSO FORGING NATIONAL ARCHIVE DOCUMENTS!!!

Date11:56:28, December 26, 2005 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageIn order for the CPK to almost spread lies and propoganda, you have to agree with an old philosopher named Leninus Maximus, who was who we think invented Communism a long time ago. And if you agree with your opposite, you would then be a pure flip-flopping hypocrite who your supporters would highly disrespect for sympathising with a quote attributed to Leninus Maximus after promising economic freedom.

Alice, make sure you're typing all of this down.

Date20:22:18, December 26, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageOperation Bed Pawn? You do realise by having a governmental monopoly, in effect, you end up creating a corporate conglomerate that doesn't pay it's employees money, that benefits from all it's worker's labour? It will mean privatizing the government, as the government controls all property! And besides, you said think, you aren't sure if Luninus Maximus invented Communism. Therefore we aren't flip-floppering hypocrites, and your spreading more lies and propaganda throughout the populace.

i'm sorry, Alice had to be prepared for the National Monopoly on Prostitution.

-Official Statement from Dail Harkonnen

Date00:24:11, December 27, 2005 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageThat is why we shall have a 100% income tax for individuals and corporations. No income, no expenses, no exploitation through the economy.

And at least prostitution shall bring with it the free health benefits of all citizens if you choose such a role. Effectively, it will be free prostitution paid for by the state. Free prostitution isn't exactly prostitution either... it is the best of both worlds.

Date07:13:48, December 27, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageWe shall never support this, though some of us don't support Dail Harkonnen, we are currently going vote no for this. It reduces the right to believe, in no god or a million gods. It reduces the right of free speach, the government will spread propaganda to weaken those against this. The kings who squeeze the wealth from the people will also force women into prostitution, and will create economic failure by redistrubting the wealth to themselves.

-Official Statement from Gou Dividez

Date10:22:23, December 27, 2005 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
Message"It is simply the best method that we should shut up about religion, and this bill reflects that. The government has no advertising capability with these guidelines, as all advertising is prohibited. We have more funding in propoganda currently than we will should this pass. Mister Dividez, your efforts to Divide the people are humbly respected yet fruitfully rejected. As some women are today forced into prostitution due to financial trouble, the alternative can be no worse in any eyes, as we hope to leave all policies on the government funded industries flexible. And preventing a business failure is second to preventing an ecological and social collapse which the current fuel-burning wallet-opening trends are chugging faithfully towards. Why you shall think that corporate rights come prior to individual rights is a hallway of questions."

- Malcolm King, CPK policy spokesman via e-mail

Date00:16:13, December 29, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageIt is the Government that decides what is advertising, and what is not, is that not true? Individuals also run corporations, that also is true right? Therefore you are depriving rights to corporations, thus depriving individual rights?

Date02:36:53, December 29, 2005 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageThe "rights" of the few individuals who run corporate actions, yes. The rights that very few have access to consider I would not consider individual rights.

As for advertising, it is also the government's responsibility to determine what is murder, is it not? That is why we have courts with juries.

Date23:36:31, December 29, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageMore regulation comes with more money needed to regulate, you will create thousands of jobs, and crush thousands of businesses. With those busnesses, jobs will be lost, and be forced to join the government's growing bureucracy. Soon the wealth will be controlled by bureucrats and politicians, instead of the people.

Date00:24:40, December 30, 2005 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageNot if the government belongs to the people, and all workers for the government are part of their own Democratic Worker's Councils.

Date07:03:09, December 31, 2005 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageBut people can be controlled by propaganda, courts could be bribed, is that really better than the nonexistant government now?

Date00:57:40, January 02, 2006 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageBribery is nonexistent when all people control all goods and money becomes liquidated, and propoganda will be illegal as it is a form of advertising. This government would protect the equal rights of all persons, which is better than a nonexistent government which allows racism, sexism, or elitism.

Date00:25:19, January 03, 2006 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageIf all goods and money are liquidated, what about food? Iron? The government decides what should be protected, and individuals control the government, and those individuals can decide what is equal.

Date00:38:22, January 03, 2006 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageNono, my mistake in clarity: I intended "all people control all goods" and "money becomes liquidated" as separate issues, not liquidating all goods and all money. If I had intended that, "becomes" would be "become".

Equality in goods is not up for debate. If some disagree that 1+1=2 for benefit of their own power, that could cause a collapse.
Essentially, every person should have equal claim on all goods in Kafuristan according to need from each according to his/her ability.

Date05:01:27, January 04, 2006 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageAnd how is the ability is judged by? I wonder how the government will react to a person using a printing press to print the truth.

Commie Dog: Hmmm, this citizen has been misusing the printing press for anti-government purposes! That's rather unproductive, I should also remove his vital organs, no use being in a unproductive person, eh? Now let's see, I should also disallow food to anyone related to him in anyway, save plenty of agricultural and health costs too! Now where's my caviar? Afterall, I'm highly capable!

Date05:07:02, January 04, 2006 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageOrgans are only taken if the person does not express another wish. Please read the bill first.

Date07:21:33, January 06, 2006 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageI wonder what happens if the person was chloroformed or have duct-tape over his mouth.

Date02:58:29, January 26, 2006 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageThat's against the law! I thought we agreed not to discuss anything against the law in public...

Date03:45:25, January 26, 2006 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageIronic, the Communist Party hates big bills, but proposes the biggest bill ever.

Date05:32:16, January 26, 2006 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageIt was initially conceived as a crazy example of why we were given too many proposals.

However, it has evolved into a list to define my party ideals and provide a framework for future reforms.

Date06:22:32, January 26, 2006 CET
FromSect of the Green Moon
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageWe trusted you. We thought it was going to be set up as a capitalistic state with communist settings(somethin like that)... Now you scaring the investors away!

Date06:38:49, January 26, 2006 CET
FromCommunist Party of Kafuristan
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageNobody ever said that such laws weren't defined as a capitalist walk!

Date17:08:05, January 26, 2006 CET
FromUnion Party
ToDebating the The Better-Than-Laissez-Faire Act
MessageI can't accept your high taxes. Therefore must I vote no to this proposal.

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Total Seats: 163

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