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Bill: Minimum Income Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3426
Description[?]:
| Every Dranish citizen ought to be able to live in reasonable comfort and dignity, no matter what their circumstances. With so much ostentatious wealth around, there is no excuse for the existence of poverty in Dranland. Cadfael Maddocks MP (Leader of the DSP) |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:12:33, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Minimum Income Act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, no one who opposes working for his own living should be able to enslave others to subsidize his laziness. Wealth is not collective property, thus the government has no right to spread it around as it fits the populist, reckless spending fetishists on the left. Julia Breckinridge MP Member for Ulbrach GNP Finance Spokeswoman |
| Date | 23:20:11, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Minimum Income Act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, we do not support the enslavement of anybody. Nor do we encourage laziness in anybody. Nor do we propose any reckless spending. All we are asking is for the very poorest in our society to be given a slightly better standard of living than they are getting at the moment. Shame on the GNP for begrudging them this! Shame on them that they, the party of the rich, seek to stigmatise the most vulnerable rather than lift a finger to help them! Cadfael Maddocks MP (Leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 02:21:37, January 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Minimum Income Act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, it is not the government's job to take care of everybody's fate. What we are willing to do is to create opportunities enabling everyone to thrive, however we will stand against making the taxpayers the cash cow for benefit-seekers, for what else is slavery than having to work for someone elses' benefit involuntarily? Julia Breckinridge MP Member for Ulbrach GNP Finance Spokeswoman |
| Date | 18:12:02, January 13, 2013 CET | From | Popular Party | To | Debating the Minimum Income Act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the Popular Party does support the existence of a welfare state to support those unable to find work through no fault of their own. What we will not support however, is the wholesale redistribution of wealth that thus bill would impose. Mariano Delgado MP Leader of the Opposition |
| Date | 18:25:37, January 13, 2013 CET | From | Popular Party | To | Debating the Minimum Income Act |
| Message | OOC: I don't really understand the difference between the options available in this bill and in the minimum wage act. Does anyone know the difference? |
| Date | 18:36:09, January 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Minimum Income Act |
| Message | OOC: The proposed policy means that the government gives you money regardless if you work or not. The minimum wage simply enforces a certain wage level that must at least be paid in every job. |
| Date | 21:16:43, January 13, 2013 CET | From | Popular Party | To | Debating the Minimum Income Act |
| Message | OOC: Ah, I get it now. Thanks for explaining! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 147 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 204 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: "Treaty-locking", or ratifiying treaties that completely or nearly completely forbid any proposals to change laws, is not allowed. Amongst other possible sanctions, Moderation reserves the discretion to delete treaties and/or subject parties to a seat reset if this is necessary in order to reverse a treaty-lock situation. |
| Random quote: "You can't get rid of poverty by giving people money." - P. J. O'Rourke |