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Bill: End Religious Schools Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3430
Description[?]:
| The time has come to end the religious indoctrination of children at schools. Antonio Benandez MP (Leader of the Opposition) |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:05:59, January 22, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the End Religious Schools Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, the Hon. Member's double standards are appalling. Apparently government monopoly on the content of education is not indoctrination, while parents choosing to pass on their family's faith to their children is. I ask this simple question to Mr Antonio Benandez: Do you believe that you and your socialist 'comrades' know better how to educate every single child, with its unique assets, talents and faculties, than their parents themselves? Craig Warwick MP Member for Elbian Minister of Education |
| Date | 20:14:22, January 22, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the End Religious Schools Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker It is not governments business to parents decision to pas their faith to their children,if they really want it so they can go church,mosque,synagogue or whatever their religion's worshiping place,and don't distort issues and if there will any socialist curriculum it will be your mistake,correct me if am wrong, isn't it your job to regulate curriculum and other educational issues. Lucas Kyffin MP from Ulbrach,Deputy Chairman Education Spokesman for Greens Parliamentary |
| Date | 20:21:08, January 22, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the End Religious Schools Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, it indeed is, but I would never arrogate to outlaw religious schools, which violates the freedom of conscience that every family in Dranland holds dear. The DSP knows very well that religion instills values that might not comply with socialist collectivism in every aspect, which is why they want to eradicate the role of religion in society. May I remind the DSP faction the Hon. former Prime Minister Maddocks has acknowledged and even praised this role in the past? This only illustrates how far to the extreme left the DSP has shifted under Benandez. Craig Warwick MP Member for Elbian Minister of Education |
| Date | 00:38:56, January 23, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the End Religious Schools Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, it is true that in the past, the DSP has been more reluctant to challenge the powerful religious lobby. Under my leadership, I am proud to say that this is no longer the case. In answer to Mr. Warwick, I must reject his ludicrous suggestion that state schools indoctrinate their pupils. I am appalled that the Minister of Education chooses to so blatantly and detrimentally insult Dranland's very hard-working teachers. Is the government sure that Mr. Warwick is fit to be Minister of Education? The real indoctrination we need to be talking about here is the indoctrination of malleable young minds carried out by the religious establishment in Dranland's religious schools. Neither I nor anybody else in Parliament is proposing to stop Dranish parents from raising their children in a religious faith, teaching them about religion or taking them to religious services. What we are arguing is that religion should not intrude into the public arena of the school. Families can promote religion at home if they wish - but at school, the kids deserve a break. After all, shouldn't they be given an opportunity to mix with children of other faiths and no faith? And shouldn't they be given breathing room to develop their own judgements about what they want to believe? We respect the role parents have to play, but we do not regard children as the personal property of their mother and father. Children are part of Dranish society as well, and Dranish society has a right and a duty to exert some degree of influence over how its children are raised. Antonio Benandez MP (Leader of the Opposition) |
| Date | 17:53:34, January 23, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the End Religious Schools Act |
| Message | Mr Spaker, it is outrageous how the DSP claims that children, from the point of their birth, are subject to what they call "society", and which actually means "the state". Children are nobody's property, but only parents have the natural right to decide which values they wish to emphasize with regards to the education of their children. Later on, after having become a mature adult, people may be free to reflect on and possibly renounce the values taught to them by the parents, a process that often has its beginnings in the period of puberty. Value-free upbringing is never possible, and this kind of moral relativism would also be dangerous for children. Imposed secularism in education is a crime against the freedom of conscience, regardless how much the socialists try to cover it up with their pseudo-humanist campaign speech. Craig Warwick MP Member for Elbian Minister of Education |
| Date | 18:01:59, January 23, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the End Religious Schools Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker Minister Warwick again distorts my colleague explanation,and so called small government oriented party should understand this if parents want to pass their faith they should do it on their own,government has no business on people's belief so religious schools should not have any place in a free open society. Lucas Kyffin MP from Ulbrach,Deputy Chairman Education Spokesman for Greens Parliamentary |
| Date | 00:02:35, January 24, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the End Religious Schools Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Our proposals will not prevent parents from raising children in the faith of their choice. We are not going to ban parents from taking their children to religious services and events. Nor are we going to ban children from using appropriate private moments to pray during the school day; all we are insisting is that prayers should not be a communal, teacher-led feature of school life. Nor are we proposing ending education about religion in schools; to the contrary, we believe that learning about different cultures and belief systems is very valuable. The legislation we are promoting is about ensuring that the 7 or so hours every Dranish youngster spends at school each day should be spent in an environment free from overt religious influence. Dranland is a secular country, and our education system ought therefore to be secular. Is this so very much to ask? Our fear is that children brought up in strict religious families and sent to exclusive religious schools where they only mix with people of one religion will not be adequately prepared for full participation in Dranish society. If we are serious about building a fairer and more cohesive society, surely segregating children into different schools based on their parents' religion is not a good idea? Antonio Benandez MP (Leader of the Opposition) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 98 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 244 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 9 |
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