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Bill: Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3433
Description[?]:
| Mr. Speaker, I propose the following motion: "This House condemns Vanessa Mitchell MP for her role in the release of an inflammatory anti-immigrant cartoon." Antonio Benandez MP (Leader of the Opposition) OOC: See http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1930&p=52067#p52047 |
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Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:38:11, January 28, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I think I should clarify the causes of my opposition to the amnesty bill proposed by the Greens and backed by the socialists, which I will do with a new comical illustration: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1930&p=52071#p52071 Vanessa Mitchell MP Member for Valdor |
| Date | 16:40:14, January 28, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | Mr Speaker We have our comical illustraiton look at them please Honourable Members especially Lorenian members: http://postimage.org/gallery/hm9vw7e/ |
| Date | 16:41:13, January 28, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | OOC : sorry forgot to write name Florence McCormick MP from Elbian Chairwoman of Greens |
| Date | 16:57:55, January 28, 2013 CET | From | Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | We find these offensive since they state everyone in Loren is involved, which not true since our members voted for the bill. Brychan Cadwallader MP Deputy Parliamentary Leader of PPC |
| Date | 17:22:40, January 28, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | Mr Speaker We are sorry that Mr Cadwallader misuderstood this argument .As a Lorenian i assure you that our local government and our governor both led by incompetent GNP, make our state an enemy of immigrants all of them and if you look at them sir than you will see that only law enforcement agencies and racist people satirized Yvette Rochelle MP from Loren Immigration Spokeswoman of Greens |
| Date | 17:39:40, January 28, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | OOC: I just realise you metioned grocery cartoon i want to state that is Lorenian Government. |
| Date | 18:32:25, January 28, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Lorenian government, I wish to submit this statement of Gov. Elina Cadiavera and First Minister Charles Holliday: Open letter to the Hon. Member Yvette Rochelle: "To the Hon. Member Rochelle, getting straight to the point and leaving formalities aside, we wish to express our outrage over your comments with regards to the democratically legitimated administration of Loren. We feel deeply insulted by your unfounded remarks, which seem to be based merely on preconceived ideas deriving from your ideological blindfoldedness rather than actual facts. Apart from the fact that regulating immigration is the exclusive responsibility of the federal government and that the Provincial administration is by law not granted any right to interfere with this field of policy, we wish to make clear that not a single member of the government of Loren has ever issued explicitly racist comments, neither have we even stated our opinion with regards to the current dispute over illegal immigration. Thus, we condemn the Hon. Member's cheap attempt to hit the headlines with completely absurd allegations, and demand her to immediately apologize and withdraw her despicable, libelous slandering. Otherwise, she will have to face a libel charge and a trial. Sincerely, Elina Cadiavera, Governor of Loren Charles Holliday MA, First Minister of Loren" Lana Howell-Torres MP Member for Ulbrach GNP Parliamentary Leader |
| Date | 18:48:12, January 28, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | Mr Speaker Federal government regulates immigration not the policies about immigrant, and and everybody in this country knows that GNP is the most anti-immigrant party in this country about racism charges i don't accuse anybody in GNP with racism, i just stated the fact that those cartoons target is GNP and Lorenian Government.The racism charge is in Alamar cartoon which states he is in Dranland,not in Loren. About libel charges bring it on Elina.I will sue you for defamation.I will speak with DSP and Greens Loren for Censure for both Elina and Charles Yvette Rochelle MP from Loren Immigration Spokeswoman of Greens |
| Date | 19:10:14, January 28, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | Mr Speaker, that the Hon. Member Rochelle now desperately tries to backpedal by trying to re-interpret her own words indicates that she is shaking in fear faced with the prospect of her crude comments being examined by the courts. The Hon. Member clearly stated that "As a Lorenian i assure you that our local government and our governor both led by incompetent GNP, make our state an enemy of immigrants". The term "enemy of immigrants" distorts the GNP immigration policy by suggesting that we generally oppose immigration, which is absurd and would destroy our prosperity. We have pointed out numerous times that, as the party of law and order, we wish to punish illegal immigration, while DSP and GoD wish to reward it. Finally, the Hon. Member's knowledge of the Dranish political landscape seems to be pathetic, as she claims that the "GNP is the most anti-immigrant party", as if the VBSM would not exist. Then again, I recall that the Green leader once stated that she would seek co-operation with the racist, fascist and totalitarian VBSM, which proves the outrageous bigotry and hypocrisy that the green agenda is based on. Brian McIntosh MP Member for Loren |
| Date | 19:34:22, January 28, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | OOC:About libel suit and defamation suit it will be wonderful RP and i have asked first PMQ |
| Date | 00:53:49, January 29, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I call on the House to return to the central issue of this debate, which is Vanessa Mitchell's decision to publish a reprehensible and bigotted cartoon which has done damage to ethnic relations in this country. Our position is very simple. Vanessa Mitchell was utterly wrong to have published this cartoon. We are calling on other parties to recognises the inappropriateness of her behaviour by supporting this Motion of Censure. Antonio Benandez MP (Leader of the Oppositon) OOC: Just to make clear, in parliamentary terms, to "censure" somebody means to condemn something they have said or done. It does not involve "censoring" anybody in the sense of placing restrictions upon their freedom of expression. This motion is basically saying "Parliament disapproves of what Vanessa Mitchell did". |
| Date | 10:46:18, January 29, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Motion of Censure: Vanessa Mitchell MP |
| Message | Mr Speaker I am apoligizing to Lorenian Government about my highly insensitive comments and claims that proved to be wrong. Yvette Rochelle MP from Loren Immigration Spokeswomen for Greems Parliamentary |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 98 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 211 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 42 |
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