Main | About | Tutorial | FAQ | Links | Wiki | Forum | World News | World Map | World Ranking | Nations | Electoral Calendar | Party Organizations | Treaties |
Login | Register |
Game Time: September 5573
Next month in: 01:18:27
Server time: 18:41:32, November 24, 2024 CET
Currently online (1): JourneyKan | Record: 63 on 23:13:00, July 26, 2019 CET

We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.

Bill: Immigration & aid reform act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Freedom Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 3451

Description[?]:

Our current policy of mass-immigration is disastrous. In a few generations, our peoples risk being outpopulated by immigrants from poorer countries coming here to live on our welfare. When will our Dranian children bow their heads to Kafuristan?

Mass-immigration is the work of neoliberals looking to exploit poor people from all over the world for their enterprises. It undermines our welfare system. What kind of government doesn't care about their own starving workingclass citizens but offers all the people's of the world high levels of foreign aid?

The reforms we suggest are very modest, we could go further, but we don't think that that would ever be considered by the elite.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:41:59, March 05, 2013 CET
FromGrand National Party
ToDebating the Immigration & aid reform act
MessageMadam Speaker, we condemn the allegedly WD's slanderous lies with the utmost strength. Immigration is not a means to exploit people from abroad, but to enrich Dranish society with individuals who, through their skills and ideas, can benefit our country's prosperity and well-being. For this reason, we wish to introduce immigration quotas according to the demands of the Dranish economy, while we oppose the current free-for-all system. However, even the current policy is preferable to the racist idea of admitting or rejecting immigrants based on their nationality.

Herman Boxhall MP
Member for Valdor
GNP Parliamentary Leader


Date18:48:12, March 05, 2013 CET
FromGukmindang
ToDebating the Immigration & aid reform act
MessageMadam Speaker, some of these proposals go further than we like, but on balance we have decided to support the Bill. We need to focus a little more on Dranland's problems and a little less on politcally correct policies. It is only reasonable to select immigrants partially on the basis of nationality or culture, because nationality and culture help to determine how likely a person is to integrate into our society. However, the skills of applicants ought to be taken into account as well.

Haneul Han MP
(General Secretary of the Gukmindang)

Date19:07:50, March 05, 2013 CET
FromPopular Action Party 인기있는 행동
ToDebating the Immigration & aid reform act
MessageMadam Speaker, immigration reform may be necessary to reduce economic migration (a threat to Dranish jobs and wages) to Dranland but this goes too far to instead reflect the notoroius 'common sense' of the good folk. Article 1 is completely unacceptable

Mina Mathers
LOL Co-Chair

Date19:59:39, March 05, 2013 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the Immigration & aid reform act
MessageMadame speaker, it is disturbing to hear politicians from the parties of the elite speak of how they now suddenly can consider stricter policies on immigration, but not as much as our very moderate proposal, when they have for ages conducted a totally irresponsible policy of mass-immigration themselves. They don't even punish those who illegally migrate here. This is not just a revolting exhibition of irresponsibility, this is close to high treason. And when, if our very modest proposal was oh so "too far" and "racist", will we see these parties placing any forms of restriction on immigration to Dranland whatsoever? This clearly shows why the Moot is in such a desperate need of Common Sense.

Adelaide Manx,
Werin Da spokeswoman on matters of immigration and assimilation (not integration)

Date23:36:36, March 05, 2013 CET
FromGukmindang
ToDebating the Immigration & aid reform act
MessageMadam Speaker, I am perplexed to see Adelaide Manx describe herself as a "Werin Da spokeswoman on matters of immigration and assimilation (not integration)". Is she not aware that her party leader advocates:

"The Kyo and the Welsh could co-operate to divide the country."

And...

"Dranland could be divided on cultural lines, with each group being given it's own zones and the power to protect their own heritage."

[see http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1930&start=1370#p53692]

Both of these statements seem to indicate support for culturally isolated and separated communities in Dranland. What exactly does she mean, then, when she refers to "assimilation"? Isn't her leader against that?

Haneul Han MP
General Secretary of the Gukmindang

Date23:50:00, March 05, 2013 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the Immigration & aid reform act
MessageMadame Speaker,

About the issue of assimilation: The Werin Da seeks to implement a policy of assimilation for immigrants, and not for any of Dranland's present cultural communities. We speak of assimilation as we reject the idea of integration, the idea that society should adopt the norms and customs of immigrants to some extent, being cultural nationalists.

Adelaide Manx,
Werin Da spokeswoman on matters of immigration and assimilation (not integration)

Date00:02:42, March 06, 2013 CET
FromGukmindang
ToDebating the Immigration & aid reform act
MessageMadam Speaker, Adelaide Manx says she wants to "integrate" immigrants...but integrate them into *what*, exactly? Is it not pecular that she is so determined to integrate immigrants into Dranish society, whilst at the same time she and the rest of her party are opposed to actually integrating into it themselves?!!

Madam Speaker, we Kyo nationalists are passionate about preserving our cultural identity, but at the same time we remain committed to the Republic of Dranland and to the common Dranish identity we share with Dranland's other cultural communities. However, we are not sure the same can be said about Werin Da.

Haneul Han MP
General Secretary of the Gukmindang

Date00:17:47, March 06, 2013 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the Immigration & aid reform act
MessageMadame Speaker,

That's not what I said. I said we wanted to assimilate immigrants as oppose to integrate. I am perfectly confident that an immigrant can be assimilated into the Dranish society as a whole, as well as my own Welsh cultural identity. It's a matter of values, norms and customs, who constitute an identity.

However, one can not live a peaceful life in Dranland and still be culturally.. say Deltarian, that would create division and the forming of ghetto-suburbs. The immigrant has to choose. Like I said, I would welcome any productive and decent member of society with good values who would like to be assimilated into Welshness.

Adelaide Manx,
Werin Da spokeswoman on matters of immigration and assimilation (not integration)

Date00:33:22, March 06, 2013 CET
FromGukmindang
ToDebating the Immigration & aid reform act
MessageMadam Speaker, I would like Adelaide Manx to tell us whether she would similarly welcome any productive and decent member of society with good values who would like to be assimilated into Dranianos, Kyo or Kazulian? There are Kyos living in Sekowo at the moment who are thinking of emigrating because of the way their government is treating its people. Would Adelaide Manx be happy to welcome those people to Dranland?

Haneul Han MP
General Secretary of the Gukmindang

subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe

Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 228

no
      

Total Seats: 471

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


    Random fact: Make sure to check out Particracy's wiki. http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

    Random quote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." - Thomas Paine

    This page was generated with PHP
    Copyright 2004-2010 Wouter Lievens
    Queries performed: 80