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Bill: Immigration & aid reform act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Freedom Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 3451
Description[?]:
| Our current policy of mass-immigration is disastrous. In a few generations, our peoples risk being outpopulated by immigrants from poorer countries coming here to live on our welfare. When will our Dranian children bow their heads to Kafuristan? Mass-immigration is the work of neoliberals looking to exploit poor people from all over the world for their enterprises. It undermines our welfare system. What kind of government doesn't care about their own starving workingclass citizens but offers all the people's of the world high levels of foreign aid? The reforms we suggest are very modest, we could go further, but we don't think that that would ever be considered by the elite. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning immigration.
Old value:: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Current: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Proposed: No foreigners are permitted to reside permanently in this nation.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Current: The government supplies "tied" aid to poorer nations in return for trading rights.
Proposed: The government only gives aid for disaster relief in foreign countries.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The national refugee policy.
Old value:: All refugees are welcome, regardless of their reason, and given aid in integrating them into the country.
Current: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.
Proposed: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Travel by foreigners to the nation.
Old value:: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Current: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Proposed: The nation imposes strict border control on visitors, with intensive security checks, to maintain law and order.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:41:59, March 05, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Immigration & aid reform act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, we condemn the allegedly WD's slanderous lies with the utmost strength. Immigration is not a means to exploit people from abroad, but to enrich Dranish society with individuals who, through their skills and ideas, can benefit our country's prosperity and well-being. For this reason, we wish to introduce immigration quotas according to the demands of the Dranish economy, while we oppose the current free-for-all system. However, even the current policy is preferable to the racist idea of admitting or rejecting immigrants based on their nationality. Herman Boxhall MP Member for Valdor GNP Parliamentary Leader |
| Date | 18:48:12, March 05, 2013 CET | From | Gukmindang | To | Debating the Immigration & aid reform act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, some of these proposals go further than we like, but on balance we have decided to support the Bill. We need to focus a little more on Dranland's problems and a little less on politcally correct policies. It is only reasonable to select immigrants partially on the basis of nationality or culture, because nationality and culture help to determine how likely a person is to integrate into our society. However, the skills of applicants ought to be taken into account as well. Haneul Han MP (General Secretary of the Gukmindang) |
| Date | 19:07:50, March 05, 2013 CET | From | Popular Action Party 인기있는 행동 | To | Debating the Immigration & aid reform act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, immigration reform may be necessary to reduce economic migration (a threat to Dranish jobs and wages) to Dranland but this goes too far to instead reflect the notoroius 'common sense' of the good folk. Article 1 is completely unacceptable Mina Mathers LOL Co-Chair |
| Date | 19:59:39, March 05, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Immigration & aid reform act |
| Message | Madame speaker, it is disturbing to hear politicians from the parties of the elite speak of how they now suddenly can consider stricter policies on immigration, but not as much as our very moderate proposal, when they have for ages conducted a totally irresponsible policy of mass-immigration themselves. They don't even punish those who illegally migrate here. This is not just a revolting exhibition of irresponsibility, this is close to high treason. And when, if our very modest proposal was oh so "too far" and "racist", will we see these parties placing any forms of restriction on immigration to Dranland whatsoever? This clearly shows why the Moot is in such a desperate need of Common Sense. Adelaide Manx, Werin Da spokeswoman on matters of immigration and assimilation (not integration) |
| Date | 23:36:36, March 05, 2013 CET | From | Gukmindang | To | Debating the Immigration & aid reform act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I am perplexed to see Adelaide Manx describe herself as a "Werin Da spokeswoman on matters of immigration and assimilation (not integration)". Is she not aware that her party leader advocates: "The Kyo and the Welsh could co-operate to divide the country." And... "Dranland could be divided on cultural lines, with each group being given it's own zones and the power to protect their own heritage." [see http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1930&start=1370#p53692] Both of these statements seem to indicate support for culturally isolated and separated communities in Dranland. What exactly does she mean, then, when she refers to "assimilation"? Isn't her leader against that? Haneul Han MP General Secretary of the Gukmindang |
| Date | 23:50:00, March 05, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Immigration & aid reform act |
| Message | Madame Speaker, About the issue of assimilation: The Werin Da seeks to implement a policy of assimilation for immigrants, and not for any of Dranland's present cultural communities. We speak of assimilation as we reject the idea of integration, the idea that society should adopt the norms and customs of immigrants to some extent, being cultural nationalists. Adelaide Manx, Werin Da spokeswoman on matters of immigration and assimilation (not integration) |
| Date | 00:02:42, March 06, 2013 CET | From | Gukmindang | To | Debating the Immigration & aid reform act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, Adelaide Manx says she wants to "integrate" immigrants...but integrate them into *what*, exactly? Is it not pecular that she is so determined to integrate immigrants into Dranish society, whilst at the same time she and the rest of her party are opposed to actually integrating into it themselves?!! Madam Speaker, we Kyo nationalists are passionate about preserving our cultural identity, but at the same time we remain committed to the Republic of Dranland and to the common Dranish identity we share with Dranland's other cultural communities. However, we are not sure the same can be said about Werin Da. Haneul Han MP General Secretary of the Gukmindang |
| Date | 00:17:47, March 06, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Immigration & aid reform act |
| Message | Madame Speaker, That's not what I said. I said we wanted to assimilate immigrants as oppose to integrate. I am perfectly confident that an immigrant can be assimilated into the Dranish society as a whole, as well as my own Welsh cultural identity. It's a matter of values, norms and customs, who constitute an identity. However, one can not live a peaceful life in Dranland and still be culturally.. say Deltarian, that would create division and the forming of ghetto-suburbs. The immigrant has to choose. Like I said, I would welcome any productive and decent member of society with good values who would like to be assimilated into Welshness. Adelaide Manx, Werin Da spokeswoman on matters of immigration and assimilation (not integration) |
| Date | 00:33:22, March 06, 2013 CET | From | Gukmindang | To | Debating the Immigration & aid reform act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I would like Adelaide Manx to tell us whether she would similarly welcome any productive and decent member of society with good values who would like to be assimilated into Dranianos, Kyo or Kazulian? There are Kyos living in Sekowo at the moment who are thinking of emigrating because of the way their government is treating its people. Would Adelaide Manx be happy to welcome those people to Dranland? Haneul Han MP General Secretary of the Gukmindang |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 228 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 471 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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