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Bill: Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism
Details
Submitted by[?]: Popular Action Party 인기있는 행동
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 3454
Description[?]:
| The LOL feels it wrongly supported certain extreme environmental measures in the past which might harm economic growth too much. We still support environmentalism but a moderate type of that. Owain Jones LOL Environment Critic |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government regulation of pollution in industry.
Old value:: The government enforces highly restrictive industrial pollution standards.
Current: The government enforces highly restrictive industrial pollution standards.
Proposed: The government enforces moderate pollution restrictions.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Waste disposal responsibility.
Old value:: The government is responsible for waste disposal.
Current: The government is responsible for waste disposal.
Proposed: Government disposes special waste only.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on whaling.
Old value:: Commercial whaling is illegal, but whaling for scientific purposes is allowed.
Current: Commercial whaling is legal, but the government establishes whaling quotas.
Proposed: Commercial whaling is legal, but the government establishes whaling quotas.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:46:14, March 07, 2013 CET | From | Gukmindang | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | Madam Speaker, we favour keeping these laws as they currently are. Liberalising our waste disposal regulations would risk waste not being collected properly and our environment being harmed. We also opposing weakening our pollution controls. We want high-tech industries coming to Dranland - not heavy polluting ones. Haneul Han MP General Secretary of the Gukmindang |
| Date | 18:58:15, March 07, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | Madam Speaker We utterly condemn this bill which will eventually bring extinction of humankind. This bill will be a litmus test for our future coalitions. We are disgusted by LoL who falsely claims that protects the low income families, a decade or two when our resources are finished people will starve, or only super rich can only afford food that is not even decent. This is not reasonable this is fatal and poisonous. Yvette Rochelle MP Leader-Elect of GP |
| Date | 20:58:43, March 07, 2013 CET | From | Popular Action Party 인기있는 행동 | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | Madam Speaker The Greens can litmus us until Dranland freezes over, we just don't care. Slander the LOL as much as you like, your argument has no facts in it just emotional blubber. The LOL will defend industrial jobs from a fanatic and not full proven ideology. We urge all parties to vote for this moderate environmentalist bill and reject extremism and blackmail wherever it may rise. Ban dae Jung LOL Industry Spokesman |
| Date | 21:06:32, March 07, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | Madam Speaker That is why LoL supports %50 corporation tax and %98 income tax, those punitive taxes will destroy much more jobs and do less than our regulations. Nikki Zasz Dong MP Co-Leader of ''Sanity and Honour in the Parliament'' |
| Date | 21:19:02, March 07, 2013 CET | From | Popular Action Party 인기있는 행동 | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | Madam Speaker, When did high taxes ever destroy jobs or economic growth, this is lazy thinking on the part of Nikki Z. Dong. Some economists actually believe that high taxes are good for the economy. Besides this has nothing to do with this biil, taxes do not feature here. And to correct Mrs Dong, we support 75% corporation tax not 50%. Ban dae Jung LOL Industry Spokesman. OOC: China has high taxes but no noteworthy economic trouble. High taxes do not necessarily harm the economy. Certain Western European countries had their highest economic growth and full employment before the 1970's and had income top rates of over 90%. |
| Date | 21:22:24, March 07, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | OOC: Well, most of that growth was based on deficit spending which is now backfiring... |
| Date | 21:42:54, March 07, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | OOC: Fiscal policy is my weakest point but I can say that if those countries lowered their taxes than their growth would be more. And not including US help and involvement in that growth will be wrong. Eenie Meenie Tiny deficits should be acceptable like (This is for the USA budget up to 70 Billions ) but A Trillion Dollars deficit is high and you cannot handle a trillion deficit with only spending cuts. BTW I will lower the tensions with you LoL |
| Date | 06:17:04, March 08, 2013 CET | From | Popular Action Party 인기있는 행동 | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | OOC: That is actually not so true. The growth was not based on deficit spending instead very high public investment. Britain for example had its total debt fall from 215% of GDP to about 43% in 1975. I also know West Germany had very low debt as well. China has very low debt and lends to countries like the US while donating to lots of poor countries. |
| Date | 17:47:40, March 08, 2013 CET | From | Gukmindang | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | OOC: Isn't anyone going to start a "Save the whale" campaign? :) The DSP would have done, but I don't think Gukmindang is very sentimental about animals... |
| Date | 18:22:42, March 08, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | OOC: Good Idea, Thanks |
| Date | 12:30:10, March 10, 2013 CET | From | Gukmindang | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | OOC: Shall we vote on this? |
| Date | 13:12:22, March 10, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | Madam Speaker We will refuse to join in a cabinet that endorses this horrible bill. Any vote for this bill causes our resignation from this cabinet. GP Caucus |
| Date | 14:47:27, March 11, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | Madame Speaker, Our honourable Draddwyr siblings in the GP can sleep well assured that the largest party on Dranish soil, the Werin Da, will never vote in favour of such a bill. Tristan Lochlannaigh, MP Tanist of the Werin Da |
| Date | 14:55:02, March 11, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Reasonable Environmental Protection Mechanism |
| Message | Madam Speaker LoL disgusts me how can they call themselves as environmentalist, while supporting whale genocide and starvation of poor and middle class of the future. If they are environmentalist, then I am not because my view or my party's view is not falls within theirs. Eira Dalgaard MP Radical Environmentalist |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 12 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 185 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 203 |
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