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Bill: KRP Manifesto
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Konservative Partiet
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 3459
Description[?]:
| If we were to change all laws to our party policy, we would change the following. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The banking system.
Old value:: All banks are privately owned.
Current: The government operates a central bank and all other banks are private.
Proposed: The government operates a central bank and all other banks are private.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Voting rights of criminals.
Old value:: Criminals are always allowed to vote, regardless of whether they are in jail or not.
Current: Criminals are always allowed to vote, regardless of whether they are in jail or not.
Proposed: Criminals released from jail are allowed to vote.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards daily working hours.
Old value:: Daily working hours are regulated by the government.
Current: The government obligates trade unions and employers to negotiate the daily number of working hours.
Proposed: The government obligates trade unions and employers to negotiate the daily number of working hours.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change National policy regarding the desecration of the national flag.
Old value:: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Current: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Proposed: There are no regulations regarding the desecration or use of the national flag.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Food safety policy.
Old value:: The government introduces, and actively enforces, food standards provisions.
Current: The government introduces, and actively enforces, food standards provisions.
Proposed: Local governments determine food safety standards.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The right to gamble.
Old value:: Gambling is legal, but only in private homes and casinos with special licences.
Current: Only small-scale gambling is allowed, involving limited amounts of money; casinos are illegal.
Proposed: Gambling is illegal unless taking place in a licensed casino.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The use of land mines is allowed but restricted.
Current: The use of land mines is prohibited.
Proposed: The Government leaves this to the army to decide upon.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the funding of libraries.
Old value:: The national government provides local governments with funding to operate libraries.
Current: The national government controls a vast and comprehensive system of public libraries.
Proposed: Funding and operation of libraries is left entirely to local governments.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change Malpractice suits.
Old value:: Malpractice suits may be brought against doctors.
Current: Malpractice suits may be brought against doctors.
Proposed: Only a medical regulatory body can prosecute a doctor for malpractice.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning museum funding.
Old value:: The national government provides local governments with the funding to operate museums.
Current: The national government maintains a system of museums nationwide.
Proposed: The national government maintains a system of museums nationwide.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning phone services.
Old value:: Telephone lines are provided free of charge to all citizens.
Current: The state subsidizes the phone service of low income families, and regulates the rates providers can charge for phone service.
Proposed: The state subsidizes the phone service of low income families, and regulates the rates providers can charge for phone service.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on population control.
Old value:: The government does not engage in population control.
Current: The government actively promotes population growth.
Proposed: The government actively promotes population growth.
Article 13
Proposal[?] to change Government funding for private schools.
Old value:: Government funding for private schools applies only to charter and religious schools.
Current: Private educational institutions receive no government funding whatsoever.
Proposed: The funding of private schools is the responsibility of local governments.
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change The right for a person to prostitute himself or herself.
Old value:: Prostitution is illegal.
Current: Prostitution is legal and a recognized profession.
Proposed: Prostitution regulation decisions are left up to local governments.
Article 15
Proposal[?] to change Displays of public affection and obscenity laws.
Old value:: Local governments may regulate laws on public acts of affection and obscenity.
Current: Local governments may regulate laws on public acts of affection and obscenity.
Proposed: Sexual intercourse is illegal in public.
Article 16
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: The use of cannabis is legal.
Current: All naturally occurring drugs are legal.
Proposed: There are no laws regulating what citizens can put into their bodies.
Article 17
Proposal[?] to change Government law concerning the sales of recreational drugs.
Old value:: The government is entirely responsible for the controlled sales of recreational drugs through operating stores and other locations.
Current: The government is entirely responsible for the controlled sales of recreational drugs through operating stores and other locations.
Proposed: Recreational drugs sales are handled by private foundations which are heavily regulated by the government.
Article 18
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Article 19
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on vaccinations.
Old value:: The government mandates vaccination for all children.
Current: The government mandates vaccination for all children.
Proposed: The government mandates vaccination for all children, but parents may opt out for religious or ideological reasons.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:24:59, March 07, 2013 CET | From | De venstregrønne | To | Debating the KRP Manifesto |
| Message | We find this bill confused in that in some cases it is pro-civil rights, in some anti-civil rights, in some cases it is pro-federalism and in others pro-unitarism. This makes it hard for us to take a position on it and we would prefer if similar proposals were grouped together in separate bills. |
| Date | 21:31:22, March 07, 2013 CET | From | Liberal Konservative Partiet | To | Debating the KRP Manifesto |
| Message | OOC: Of course, that would make it easier. In some ways it is to confuse the voters themselves... IC: Can De venstregrønne clarify what part of the bill is "anti-civil rights"? There are measures that impose more regulations, but that is more of an economic regulation (for example the gambling law). We agree that some parts suggest devolving powers to our local governments, whilst others return powers to the central government, however it is not confusing that some powers should be centralised and others devolved. |
| Date | 22:34:16, March 07, 2013 CET | From | League of Justice | To | Debating the KRP Manifesto |
| Message | Article 1 will cause more deaths and Retsforbundet will therefore not support it. Article 2 is irresponsible, the food regulation should be the same nationwide, we cannot risk good food regulations in one part of the country and terrible food regulations in an other part. Retsforbundet will therefore not support it. Article 3 is also irresponsible, we can not allow people to hurt themselves by taking all sorts of drugs and especially not in a welfarestate as the Kazulian. Retsforbundet will therefore not support it. Article 4 is a good proposal, Retsforbundet does however not wish to force anyone to be vaccinated. Article 5 is a good proposal, Retsforbundet does support it. Article 6 is a good proposal, Retsforbundet does support it. Article 7 is a odd proposal, Retsforbundet does not see any reason to decide wether or not people shall gamble in their own homes, that is a personal matter. Article 8 should rather be changed to "There are no regulations on phone service" because it costs a lot and is a socialist idea which we do not support, there shall be a free market because it would in the end benefit the costumers more. Article 9 is better than the current law, the state should not decide wether or not a business shall be allowed when it doesn't go against the other laws of the country. Article 10 is a good proposal , Retsforbundet does support it. Article 11 would be a crime against humanity, everyone shall have the right to vote no matter what, this is clearly a anti-civili rights proposal and Retsforbundet will never support such a law. Article 12 should be as it is, the current law is good and Retsforbundet will therefore not support this proposal. Article 13 should rather take all government funding away from private schools, they are after all private and shall therefore not be funded by the government. Article 14 and 15 should be both "privatized", the government has business what so ever in cultural matters, Retsforbundet would therefore remove cultural funding. Article 16 is fine, Retsforbundet does support it. Article 17 is ridiculous, the state should never interfere in matters regarding population growth. Article 18 is an anti-civil rights proposal, we should not decide where people are having sexual intercourse. Article 19 should keep its current form, we shall not decide wether or not teacher-lead prayers are taking place at schools. Retsforbundet does therefore see some good proposals, but we do also se many odd, terrible and ridiculous proposals and do therefore not support this bill. |
| Date | 23:43:59, March 07, 2013 CET | From | Indigoblå Liga | To | Debating the KRP Manifesto |
| Message | Like the De Venstregrønne and Retsforbundet, we agree on only some of the proposals and find it hard to take a definitive position. As the bill has already been brought to a vote but we do not want to be forced to vote yes on subjects we disapprove of or vote no on subjects we support and subsequently confuse voters, we shall abstain. |
| Date | 23:47:37, March 07, 2013 CET | From | Indigoblå Liga | To | Debating the KRP Manifesto |
| Message | In the future, if the purpose of party manifesto is just to display the party's platform, simply open the bill to debate and do not bring it to a vote. |
| Date | 23:54:23, March 07, 2013 CET | From | League of Justice | To | Debating the KRP Manifesto |
| Message | You have to vote yes or no, if you do not do this the bill will pass and all these proposals will be implemented. |
| Date | 16:23:51, March 08, 2013 CET | From | Kløverpartiet | To | Debating the KRP Manifesto |
| Message | We pretty much agree with the posts above. We agree on some articles like 4 and 5. But we disagree on others like 1 and 7. So we voted no. |
| Date | 23:00:26, March 08, 2013 CET | From | Logisk Synspunkt | To | Debating the KRP Manifesto |
| Message | Article 1: Mines are a useful tactic in war; we agree. Article 2: We could go either way. Article 3: As long as they are held responsible for what they do when high, we don't disagree. Article 4: Agree. Article 5: Believes that the private sector should be as private as possible. Article 6: Agree. Article 7: People should be able to gamble in their own homes. Article 8: We believe that phone service should be more privatized than you suggested. Article 9: We believe that prostitution and slavery are the two things that the government may never allow an individual do to himself. Article 10: Agree. Article 11: We could go either way. Article 12: Disagree. Article 13: Disagree, if the government is going to give away 'free' education then they the government should also support private schools to some degree.. Article 14: Agree. Article 15: Disagree. Article 16: Disagree. Article 17: Disagree. Article 18: Could go either way. Article 19: Disagree. |
| Date | 04:27:38, March 09, 2013 CET | From | Indigoblå Liga | To | Debating the KRP Manifesto |
| Message | Article 1: Disagree - The current policy restricts deaths of innocents. Article 2: Disagree - A strictly enforced national standard for food safety is essential to a healthy nation. Article 3: Disagree - We strongly believe that laws must protect citizens from harmful and addictive drugs. This policy change effectively legalizes all drugs, not only cannabis, and will cause a mass epidemic of drug related crimes and deaths. Article 4: Disagree - Complete vaccination of the population is the only way to rid Kazulia of terrible diseases. Studies have shown that those who opt out of vaccinations for religious/ideological reasons are much more likely to not only catch infectious diseases, but pass them on to others. Article 5: Agree - A central bank provides useful oversight, a national currency, and maintains financial stability of the nation. A central bank does not have to be directly controlled by the government. We espouse a central bank similar to the American system where the central bank is almost entirely independent from federal influence. Article 6: Agree Article 7: Disagree - We are fine with gambling in private homes as long as citizens hosting these events cannot commercialize it and charge admission. Article 8: Disagree - Telephone lines are now essential for communication and should be provided free of charge. Article 9: Disagree - Prostitution must remain illegal. Article 10: Agree - Or "The matter of sales of recreational drugs is handled by local governments." Article 11: Agree - By committing a crime, the criminal has failed their duty as a citizen and therefore cannot vote until they have paid their penance. Article 12: Disagree Article 13: Agree - Or "Private schools are given funding on a case-by-case basis." or "Only charter schools are given government funding." Article 14: Agree - We agree, although the current policy is also acceptable. Article 15: Agree - However, the current policy is also acceptable. Ideally we would like there to be a few large national museums and many locally operated museums. Article 16: Disagree - The national flag is not simply a piece of cloth. It represents our people, culture, history, and nation and therefore deserves respect. Article 17: Disagree Article 18: Agree Article 19: Disagree - Although in principle we disapprove of teacher-led prayers, this decision should be left to individual schools. |
| Date | 11:27:27, March 09, 2013 CET | From | Kløverpartiet | To | Debating the KRP Manifesto |
| Message | Article 1: Disagree Article 2: Disagree Article 3: Disagree - We support liberatism, but we need to protect our citizens from dangerous drugs. Article 4: Agree - Our citizens should have the right to opt out from vaccinations. Article 5: Agree - We think a national bank could improve national finances, and we will support this. Article 6: Agree Article 7: Disagree - We can't control what people are doing home, and they should be able to gamble privately. Article 8: Disagree Article 9: Disagree - Prostitution needs to be illegal. Article 10: Agree Article 11: Disagree - Each individual should have the right to vote. Article 12: Disagree - The current law is good enough and should not the changed in the near future. Article 13: Agree Article 14 & 15: Agree - But the current policy is acceptable. Article 16: Disagree Article 17: Disagree Article 18: Could go either way on this. Article 19: Disagree - Should not be changed. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 28 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 73 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 149 |
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