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Bill: Extremely mild immigration act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Freedom Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3453
Description[?]:
| Is there anyone now, who could not see this bill as an act of extreme moderation, asking our nation to leave an extremist policy on immigration and foreign aid? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning immigration.
Old value:: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Current: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Proposed: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The national refugee policy.
Old value:: All refugees are welcome, regardless of their reason, and given aid in integrating them into the country.
Current: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.
Proposed: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Current: The government supplies "tied" aid to poorer nations in return for trading rights.
Proposed: The government gives moderate aid to countries in need.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but puts them in integration centers when discovered.
Current: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but puts them in integration centers when discovered.
Proposed: Dealing with illegal aliens is left to local governments.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:30:53, March 09, 2013 CET | From | Gukmindang | To | Debating the Extremely mild immigration act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, we would prefer a national immigration policy, but nevertheless, we can support this Bill as an overall package. Haneul Han MP General Secretary of the Gukmindang |
| Date | 21:14:45, March 09, 2013 CET | From | Popular Party | To | Debating the Extremely mild immigration act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, Far from being "extremely mild" as the WD claim, this bill would in fact destroy Dranland's reputation as a liberal, tolerant nation. Numerous studies have shown the enormous benefits immigrants bring to our nation, not only economically but also the great cultural diversity they allow us to have. This article of the bill would do enormous damage to Dranish society. We also do not see the WD's objection to foreign aid. This makes up an extremely small part of our overall budget and prevents us from having to spend much more money to solve problems in the future- aid allows us to prevent problems occurring g in the first place. We are also very concerned about article 1 of this bill. We have already seen the problems that can be caused by extreme elements of parties targeting certain ethnic groups- just imagine what would happen if these elements had the power to deal with people fleeing from persecution in their home countries. We would urge other parties to seriously consider what their backing of this bill would mean for Dranland's economy and society, as well as its reputation overseas. Melissa Hargreaves MP Leader of the Popular Party, Proud Defender of Immigrants |
| Date | 01:31:01, March 10, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Extremely mild immigration act |
| Message | Madame Speaker, Let us be clear on one thing, this bill is an extremely mild one. Most nations regulate their immigration, and no one will raise an eyebrow for having us doing so in a very moderate way. There are a lot of nations with far, far stricter policies that you never hear being called intolerant because of their immigration policies, take Deltaria or Lodamun for examples, who both not only regulate their immigration but also have racial quotas as well. Most normal people think of a nations immigration policy as belonging to it's internal affairs, and the only ones who could condemn Dranland for having a very moderate such policy are extremists who's opinions we would never consider in any case. Speaking of studies, various studies also show how harmful foreign aid for the economy of developing countries, and the Werin Da party line is to cut foreign aid except for disaster relief and microcredits. There is an old saying telling us that to feed a man, one should not give him a fish, but teach him to fish, and he will never go hungry again. We do agree that letting local governments handle illegal immigration is not necessarily an ideal option, but it's better than not dealing with the issue at all. People who are here illegally are criminals. Comparing criminals with with people fleeing from persecution is gravely insulting to all real refugees, and I demand Mrs. Hargreaves to apologise to all the real refugees that have found shelter in our sacred realm for even suggesting such a thing. Adelaide Manx, MP Werin Da spokeswoman on matters of immigration and assimilation |
| Date | 07:35:58, March 10, 2013 CET | From | Popular Action Party 인기있는 행동 | To | Debating the Extremely mild immigration act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, While Ms. Hargreaves has named the advantages of immigration, she has neglected to name the disadvantages. The uncontrolled influx of unskilled immigrants is hurting Dranland's lowest paid as these immigrants are pushing down wages due to their will to work for far less than Dranish workers would normally accept. The vast increase in population in some cities is raising the cost of housing and kicking the poor and lower middle class too. Fake refugees are a drain on our social services with the current free for all refugee system. The LOL opposes mass migration for these reasons, we do not support racialism like some do and support controlled immigration of people with skills that Dranland is short of not unskilled workers. Dr. Juana Sucre LOL Justice Critic |
| Date | 12:24:53, March 10, 2013 CET | From | Gukmindang | To | Debating the Extremely mild immigration act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, we share the concerns about immigration expressed by Dr. Juana Sucre. Immigration needs to be regulated if we are to maximise its benefits and limit its drawbacks. However, we also take on board Melissa Hargreaves' point about the disadvantages of leaving it up to local governments to deal with illegal immigration issues. Haneul Han MP General Secretary of the Gukmindang |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 242 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 115 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 43 |
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