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Bill: Civil Liberties Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Zardugal Trade Unionist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2157
Description[?]:
| Let's expand them...Think of the Children. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National policy regarding the desecration of the national flag.
Old value:: The national flag may not be desecrated or used for commercial purposes.
Current: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Proposed: The national flag may not be used for commercial purposes.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Current: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Proposed: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:30:56, December 14, 2005 CET | From |  Roman Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | Article 2 restricts Civil Liberties, not expands them. Against. |
| Date | 08:50:23, December 14, 2005 CET | From | Zardugal Trade Unionist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | Well, you are right. however, the second part of my statement "lets think of the children" why dont we do that? Gun control does that...or so we believe. |
| Date | 13:12:47, December 14, 2005 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | Same point on article 2. Article 1 has been gone over many times in the history of the nation. It is beyond common sense that anone desecrate the symbol of the NATION (not the government of the nation) to make any statement whatsoever. To state that flag desecration is a civil liberty is akin to making theft, vandalism or murder a civil liberty. The very idea lacks sane and rational thought. Flag desecration is a crime against the people of a nation represented and should be treated as such. If it were possible in game, I would demand the same reverence for ALL recognised national flags, as each represents the people of that nation, and thus should be afforded all due respect, even if we were at war with them. |
| Date | 19:16:35, December 14, 2005 CET | From | Zardugal Trade Unionist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | We're not disagreeing with the fact that the need is great to respect the people of the nation which the flag represents, however, sometimes it is necessary to make a statement that some would find unpopular, and yet is one of the most important things that can be done...protesting. thats what this is about damnit. |
| Date | 13:31:32, December 16, 2005 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | So if I want to go have sex on the steps of the capitol building in protest of something that's ok, right? Because I find that less obscene than flag desecration. |
| Date | 19:18:27, December 16, 2005 CET | From | Zardugal Trade Unionist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | I don't see a case where that would be necessary, but if it ever became apparent that it was, then yes. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 501 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Particracy has 464 player slots. |
| Random quote: "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson |