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Bill: For et mer rettferdig Kazulia (del 12)
Details
Submitted by[?]: De venstregrønne
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3471
Description[?]:
| Some policies to move Kazulia in a more just and equitable direction. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: The government encourages the formation of Democratic Workers' Councils through subsidies and tax exemptions.
Current: The government requires most industries to be fully run by Democratic Workers' Councils.
Proposed: The government requires all businesses to be run by Democratic Workers' Councils.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:12:19, April 06, 2013 CET | From | Unionen av Frihet | To | Debating the For et mer rettferdig Kazulia (del 12) |
| Message | This is communist. |
| Date | 11:32:25, April 07, 2013 CET | From | De venstregrønne | To | Debating the For et mer rettferdig Kazulia (del 12) |
| Message | If communism means wanting to give working people their rightful say over how their workplaces are managed and run, extending democracy into not just political but also economic life, then VG is indeed a communist party and is proud to be seen as such. |
| Date | 22:17:41, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Unionen av Frihet | To | Debating the For et mer rettferdig Kazulia (del 12) |
| Message | Thank you for that confession. It is aweful to force everyone to act one way and so that is communism, the government telling everyone to behave in one way. So thank you for conceding to that fact DV. |
| Date | 05:14:41, April 08, 2013 CET | From | De venstregrønne | To | Debating the For et mer rettferdig Kazulia (del 12) |
| Message | How exactly is more democracy forcing everyone to act in the same way? We believe all working people should have a say over how their workplaces are managed and run. UaF, by contrast, clearly believes that only a tiny minority of capitalists should ever have any say over the economic life of the country. |
| Date | 06:56:28, April 08, 2013 CET | From | Unionen av Frihet | To | Debating the For et mer rettferdig Kazulia (del 12) |
| Message | Actually the UaF believes that everyone has a right to run their business the way they want and everyone has the right to seek employment at anyplace. The DV obviously wants everything run by a small group of close-minded bureaucrats. |
| Date | 15:56:50, April 08, 2013 CET | From | De venstregrønne | To | Debating the For et mer rettferdig Kazulia (del 12) |
| Message | UaF talks as if businesses only belong to capitalists and shareholders. But what about the workers upon which businesses depend on and could not function without. Why do they not also deserve a say over how their workplaces are managed and run? And the point of a democratic workers' council is that all workers will have an equal chance to get involved in the running of the company, it has nothing to do with putting a small number of bureaucrats in charge. |
| Date | 16:56:15, April 08, 2013 CET | From | League of Justice | To | Debating the For et mer rettferdig Kazulia (del 12) |
| Message | The workers have not taken the risk of starting the company they work in and shall therefore not steal any money from the owner. |
| Date | 01:08:27, April 09, 2013 CET | From | Logisk Synspunkt | To | Debating the For et mer rettferdig Kazulia (del 12) |
| Message | "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting that vote." ~ Ben Franklin |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 54 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 142 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Voters have an extra appreciation for bills that actually get passed, so if you want to maximally take profit from your votes, make sure you compromise with others. |
| Random quote: "Conservatives define themselves in terms of what they oppose." - George Will |