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Bill: Restoration of the Monarchy
Details
Submitted by[?]: Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3467
Description[?]:
| We call for the restoration of the Dranish Monarchy as a stable force in this nation. The name shall returned to the Kingdom of Drania. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Current: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Proposed: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: President
Current:
| 花武麻立干陛下 (His Excellency the Hwamu Emperor of the Kingdom of Great Baeguk, Baek Seonghwa) |
Proposed: Rey/Brenin/왕
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:16:48, April 06, 2013 CET | From | Drania Cívica 🏴 시민당 | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The restoration of the monarchy would prove to be a divisive issue, and not because of republican parties. No, it would be ethnically divisive. There are royal houses among the Dranianos and Kyo, among others. Only one could be monarch and the "losing" ethnic group would not be happy or satisfied. |
| Date | 01:13:24, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we would not be adverse to introducing a constitutional monarchy if there was a strong consensus for one. President Rafael Duvalle |
| Date | 02:15:30, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | And yet you call yourselves conservatives, bunch of hypocrites. Dyfan ap Petran President of DFN |
| Date | 02:16:30, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | OOC: sorry, misread it forget the statement. |
| Date | 02:33:46, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We support the creation a monarchy, but not one where the Monarch is the Head of State, as that would go against the rules of the Alliance of Terran Republics (ATR) that we wish Dranland to join. We also do not support any Draniano monarch. - Callum Walker, MP |
| Date | 03:15:46, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Drania Cívica 🏴 시민당 | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Already we can see proof of the ethnic factionalism that would result from monarchism. We are worried by the MP Walker's complete opposition towards "any Draniano monarch." Clearly the HDR has prejudice in its ranks. Sun Gyeong-yun, MP KSDP Parliamentary Leader |
| Date | 03:20:39, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Not at all. I'm sorry, I should have made that clear. I wasn't talking about the ethnicity of the monarch but the cultural character of the monarchy. - Callum Walker, MP |
| Date | 03:30:46, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | OOC: I suppose we could be inventive and have a Dual Monarchy like Hulstria, or give the crown to the son of a marriage between a Draddwyr noble and a Dranianos noble... |
| Date | 07:35:45, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Agrarian League | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | Mr Speaker, This would end the intrigue of presidential elections. Second, why should a poor farm boy grow up with the dream of becoming Head of State? this will only fire up Kyo terrorists and seen as discrimination. Nevertheless the DAL is not completely opposed to WD's idea of non-head of state monarchy. Father Simon Drake MP DAL Culture Spokesman |
| Date | 18:37:28, April 07, 2013 CET | From |  Beluz Democratic Karavist Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | OOC: Motivated by Aquinas calling for you guys to be inventive, and in response to Reddy's remark, I can add this: Without presidential elections, the system would be more interesting. Presidential elections have too much of a "win" or "lose" vibe to it, and a parliamentary system would make seat share more important. What you could do is this weird system I designed, called a "Principal Republic" where Dranland is a republican principality. The prince is the monarch, a symbol of unity, but has no power. Head of state powers would be divided among members of the legislature, the "Principal Council" or what you have as the parliament now. You can change the Head of Government title to "President" It would function like a parliamentary republic, to those who like republics, and a monarchy to those who like monarchies. It suits everyone. For example, republicans would just look at it as the people electing the President. Monarchists would look at it as the Prince selecting the President (since the members of the legislature would collectively function as the Prince's authority). |
| Date | 18:54:24, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | OOC: I liked the idea, Thanks Siggon |
| Date | 18:59:55, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | OOC: actually, we could do a viceroy system, where the monarchy is represented by a elected official. |
| Date | 19:11:21, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Beluz Democratic Karavist Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | OOC: You're welcome, Ege. LibCoyote... my idea serves balance. Republicans will see it as the President being elected by the legislature (like South Africa) Monarchists will see it as the Prince selecting the president, since the legislature serves as the authority of the Prince (like constitutional monarchies). Your idea, apart from not being so inventive since it has been used so much in the game already, is more monarchist; republicans are less likely to agree to it. |
| Date | 19:35:25, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | I see |
| Date | 21:23:50, April 07, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Restoration of the Monarchy |
| Message | OOC: I'm attracted to Siggon's idea. If we didn't want a monarch, we could adapt it a bit...maybe the Head of State could be the Speaker or something. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 251 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 124 |
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