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Bill: Fahramar v McClok debate.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Radical Liberal Party of Dranland
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3483
Description[?]:
| Debate Boundries: No physical contact. Respect the Moderator |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:16:15, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Good morning! My name is Herge Riviera, and I am here to host a debate between two of Dranland's most colourful politicians, Heiro Fahramar and Anne McClok. This promises to be a very lively debate, so I appeal to both participants to remain calm and respectful at all times. |
| Date | 07:17:39, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Anne McClok: Good Morning, Herge, It is great to be here. I want to start the debate with apologising Mr.Fahramar, I thought you were a bastard that is just mean and bigoted but I get what feel right now, you suppressed your feelings about yourself and your orientation, this is why you hate homosexual people because you are a homosexual and you couldn't handle it. Don't worry Fahramar, there are clinics for curing this, and you will become normal like us after therapy. In this therapy you will find yourself and recognise who you are, and you will make a peace with your orientation and accept who you are because baby you are born this way. |
| Date | 12:25:00, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Heiro Fahramar: Good morning all Dranlanders, Patriots, Hard Workers, Crusaders of the One True Faith, Decent Ordinary Folk, I might be he Minister of Interior, but I am not one for fancy titles or haughty speech. I am just your fellow lad, an average guy just like you. I became a politician to work for for more Common Sense™ and less bureaucratic elitism in politics. Anne McClok is not your fellow lass. She is not devoted to more Common Sense™. She is devoted to more elitism and less freedom for ordinary folk to be just ordinary folk. She is closely tied to a suspected terrorist organization who could be seen revolting against the law and creating chaos and disorder in Loren for the sake of Batty Men. She does not only want to have the fagot’s practice of jerking into other men's asses celebrated as marriage, she also want to celebrate shit-sex as a “right” through pestering ordinary decent folks with a parade through the streets. Make no mistake: I shall do everything in my power to prevent this. As for her comments on my own sexuality I can only laugh. Everyone knows that I'm into young lasses. Just ask my 23-year old wife Cordelia. What man doesn't want a sweet cute little princess to raise and foster by himself? *licks his mouth* |
| Date | 12:49:38, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Anne McClok: Fahramar, please don't be ashamed we all made mistakes like i accused Werin Da with sanity and you made a mistake when call youself common sense. Are you sure Cordelia is a she, you might force him to be a she so you can stay on closet.Cordelia if that douchebag Fahramar forced you to become a she please tell us, if we can find a cure for him, we can find for you too, maybe she has Wellyn Syndrome. That c.nt Fahramar is go to hell for his bigotry and hatred but some of you still found redemption.Shit sex is what Fahramar do in his spare time as a man whore.He think he can prevent you to protest but i can prevent him to do that.On calling me as terrorists, at least a state don't recognise me as a terrorists while Pntek Wrntunyfkai Jezknstat recognise you as terrorists and I am tough on terrorism so Werin Da has to be extradite to Pntek Wrntunyfkai Jezknstat true leaders and rulers of Pontesi. |
| Date | 13:14:54, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Heiro Fahramar: It's a great deal of fun to see a "progressive" recognize a genocidal racist and fascist regime as "the true leaders and rulers" of a country. Please, li'l Anne. Try to understand that cesspool sex is the one thing daddy won't do. You might like being raped in your cute little ass by little devils and I'd like to grant you your wish by deporting you to the Unholy Empire of Davostag, were the imps will hunt in the volcanic landscapes you for your ass until you agree to become their anal slave. That's fine over there, every country is different, but that's not how we do it here in Dranland. Here we are ordinary decent folk who fuck like ordinary decent folk. I don't mind a good ol' handjob or blowjob, but shit sex is a nono. I am a Hosian Man, after all. God made butts as a way out for shit, not as a way in for cooks. I do recognize that my own party has been to meek on the issue. Fagotry should have been banned long ago. The only thing those disgusting shits should be have in their ass is a police baton. |
| Date | 13:50:17, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Anne McClok: Cordelia, don't afraid to call the debate center, we can arrange you police protection against this predator. I can grant you a one way ticket to hell but then i think you already grant yourself that ticket in first class.How do you think you are that you can decide what people to do or not to do answer that, you old misogynistic bastard.It is a shame that Hosian church not to excommunicate you from there, or maybe they did but you undisclosed this truth and try to show yourself as a Hosian. Put that police baton on your ass, so you get to know what it is like in Pntek nation,when they raped you and torture you. |
| Date | 14:04:14, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | I feel the need to remind Heiro Fahramar and Anne McClok of the need to focus on the substantial political issues rather than insulting each other with offensive comments. Both of you have a duty to our viewers to behave with greater dignity than you have done so far. If this gets any worse, my producers are threatening to pull the plug and take us off air. Thank you both for your co-operation. Herge Riviera OOC: These two obviously don't like each other very much, do they?!! :P |
| Date | 14:11:39, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | OOC: I should've add plus 18 sign and as the producer I don't have a problem to airing the debate most of isn't understandable anyway(bleeping consists most of the debate). How is debate going on? Good or too off topic |
| Date | 16:08:24, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Heiro Fahramar: Could we perhaps get a serious debate about serious issues now? I don't think the listeners are interested in your perverted sex life, bitch. In the past years, Dranish citizens have experienced more freedom, justice and good values than ever. Myself, I want this to continue. |
| Date | 17:49:24, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Mr. Fahrarmar, please do not make any more remarks like that. It is time to discuss some politics. Perhaps Anne McClok and Heiro Fahrarmar would each make a short statement, explaining why they think the voters should support their party at the next election. Herge Riviera OOC: Yep, I think this debate will be late night viewing only lol! |
| Date | 20:13:52, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | To earbud in Riviera's head: Both of us know that this debate is about their nonsense crap so don't push it and allow them to discuss in their way. Producer of the Debate |
| Date | 21:20:45, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Heiro Fahramar: At least I have no problems answering that. People for vote for the Good Folk and the Hosian Democratic Right to get politicians with Common Sense™ who want to let ordinary people be ordinary people. We care about the norms, the values that society rests upon, and we do not try to force any radicalist elitist agenda upon good folk, we do not seek to destroy ordinary peoples customs in the name of radical egalitarianism. |
| Date | 21:41:16, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | OOC: Yeah, letting them slug it out and abuse each other etc. will probably be better for the television station's viewing figures lol! |
| Date | 21:48:57, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Anne McClok: We are the common sense party, the authentic one not the poor imitation. We believe in individual freedom with responsiblities. We believe that education is the most important part of our society and this government try to turn our kids into ignorant. We want to make our schools in the best whole Terra, but this government wants our schools closed with their redundant agenda. We believe that agricultural subsidies were useful but now we believe that they are source of corruption. We seek elimination of elitist agenda of Werin Da and DAL. |
| Date | 22:08:31, April 11, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Heiro Fahramar: No, we are the true Common Sense™ party here. We believe in freedom and individual responsibility, that's why we seek to abolish the income tax and fight gun control, copyright, libel and slander laws. We believe in social justice, that's why were giving funding to all schools. We believe in the free market - that's why we want to privatize the military and the police. We believe in a society built upon values, that's why we have outlawed abortion, euthanasia and fag "marriage". We believe in animal welfare. All of this is Common Sense™ and witness of a balanced centrist approach in which all of society is taken into consideration. What the CPF stands for is simply more liberal elitism, more income taxes, more money for cuddling with privileged elites like fags, feminist witches and immigrants. We stand against this. We stand with ordinary decent folk. |
| Date | 08:44:02, April 12, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Fahramar v McClok debate. |
| Message | Mr Speaker They can deny it and not accept it but we are the authentic common sense party in here. We don't support the sales tax that will only devastate poor and helping poor is elitist than we are elitist. Common sense gun control is good, not excessive or minimal, our party's predeccessor proudly legalised gun ownership again in Dranland. You say education funding is unnecessary, you said you want only 10 billion in education while 40 billion in big agriculture's pockets. On copyright laws we believe in restricted ones individual ownership is good so as innovation. How can we sure that privatised military and police force ain't start a coup and overthrow us. I believe in society based upon values of freedom and equality but we can't force anybody to do anything they want so we want to abolish archaic marriage,euthanasia,drugs and abortion laws. We believe in individual responsibility and Werin Da believes in imposing their mad values to us. They are led by a drama queen who might be also a drag queen in closet. She is just a maniac who declared herself as the ruler of all Draddwyr(if I don't recall it wrong). |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 354 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 45 |
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