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Bill: Slashing Green Tape

Details

Submitted by[?]: Grand National Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 3470

Description[?]:

Mr Speaker,

the unscientific eco-fetish of the hippie lobby has inflicted grave and persistent damage to the prosperity of Dranish businesses. We must lift burdens on our businesses by radically cutting green tape and allowing businesses, especially small ones who find it especially hard to comply with the loads of regulation the government has imposed on them, to thrive again. We must also reverse the large expropriation projects initiated by the left-wing, which has stripped thousands of farmers of their forest land and handed it over to fat cat state bureaucrats who have no idea of their demands.

Marco Cervantes MP
Member for Valdor
GNP Ecology Spokesman

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:07:26, April 14, 2013 CET
FromDranish Conservative Party
ToDebating the Slashing Green Tape
MessageMr. Speaker, we oppose Articles 1 & 2. Article 2 would be especially damaging, allowing irresponsible companies to pollute our towns and cities without consequence. Perhaps if Marco Cervantes had experience of living in a pollution smog, he would better understand the need for pollution controls.

As for Article 3, the DCP is committed to GM farming in principle, although we would like a broad public consensus in favour before pressing forwards with this.

President Rafael Duvalle

Date20:12:07, April 14, 2013 CET
FromGrand National Party
ToDebating the Slashing Green Tape
MessageMr Speaker,

if we enforce property rights effectively, companies will have to pay for the damage caused to other person's grounds and health. This will provide an incentive to businesses to keep pollution to a minimum, but again that would require strict law enforcement, with regards to which the governing parties do not have a proud legacy.

As for Article 3, we take note that once again the President chooses appeasement to the anti-science crusaders at DAL over common sense and economic liberty.

Marco Cervantes MP
Member for Valdor
GNP Ecology Spokesman

Date20:12:23, April 14, 2013 CET
FromGrand National Party
ToDebating the Slashing Green Tape
MessageOOC: Damn, I'm still writing 'GNP'...

Date20:18:08, April 14, 2013 CET
FromDranish Conservative Party
ToDebating the Slashing Green Tape
MessageMr. Speaker, we could support reducing the severity of Dranland's current pollution controls, because they are at present excessive. However, we cannot contemplate abolishing them altogether, and I don't think Marco Cervantes has come up with any feasible alternative. How much would he like to be financially compensated for a company to open a factory next door to him which pollutes the lungs of his sons and daughters and causes them to die prematurely?

President Rafael Duvalle

Date20:22:36, April 14, 2013 CET
FromGrand National Party
ToDebating the Slashing Green Tape
MessageMr Speaker, in this case we should encourage those suffering from the polluting to file lawsuits against the respective company to prevent them from infringing their right to self-ownership and property. As soon as a precedent has been set by the jurisdiction, we can conclude that future ventures will seek to utilize cleaner forms of energy generation.

Marco Cervantes MP
Member for Valdor
RFR Ecology Spokesman

Date20:25:37, April 14, 2013 CET
FromDranish Conservative Party
ToDebating the Slashing Green Tape
MessageMr. Speaker, Marco Cervantes ignores the fact that not everybody can afford lawyers, and not everybody is even comfortable about using the legal process. Dranland has to have pollution controls; there is no other reasonable or humane option.

President Rafael Duvale

Date20:29:20, April 14, 2013 CET
FromGrand National Party
ToDebating the Slashing Green Tape
MessageMr Speaker, it doesn't matter if 'anyone' can afford lawyers, it is enough if one person is able to do so and bravely challenges the polluters. It's all about setting a precedent as I have outlined.

Marco Cervantes MP
Member for Valdor
RFR Ecology Spokesman

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 91

no
     

Total Seats: 243

abstain
 

Total Seats: 65


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