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Bill: Modesty in the military reform act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Freedom Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 3485
Description[?]:
| The military would best be kept out of all sexual matters and be a place for modesty and decency. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women serve alongside men.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women serve in segregated units.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:14:56, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, this legislation would greatly improve effectiveness, morale and working relations within our armed services. Hywel Wigley MP Minister of Defence |
| Date | 17:17:33, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Centre Democrats | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This will certainly not keep the military out of sexual matters, this is will result in a huge violation of privacy and it is disgusting, homophobic and chauvinistic! Victoria Ingvoldsen (R) Spokesperson for Defence |
| Date | 19:37:47, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, if Victoria Ingvoldsen better understood what life in the army is like, then she would not bring "privacy" into this argument. When you are living cheek by jowl at close quarters in the barracks, there is not much privacy. Is it really such a good policy to force red-blooded Dranish men to live so closely with ladies and overtly flamboyant homosexuals? Hywel Wigley MP Minister of Defence |
| Date | 19:41:02, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Centre Democrats | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Prohibiting certain people from being themselves is indeed a huge violation of privacy. This is indeed a discriminating, homophobic and chauvinistic law! Victoria Ingvoldsen (R) Spokesperson for Defence |
| Date | 20:03:17, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, we agree with Mrs Ingvoldsen and wish to condemn the despicable assumption of the Defence Minister that homosexuals and women are unable of maintaining professional behavior within the armed forces. Alistair Sullivan MP Member for Loren RFR Defence Spokesman |
| Date | 20:50:10, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, this legislation is essential to preventing the epidemic in sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancies which is wreaking havoc across the ranks. It is also important to send out a strong message to potential aggressors. Who is going to be scared off by a bunch of women and effeminate men? Hywel Wigley MP |
| Date | 21:22:48, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, instead of fantasizing about non-existent epidemics, acting Defence Minister Wigley should get rid off his disgusting preconceptions. Thankfully, the Dranish people smashed the theofascist bloc for their condescension, hate-mongering and arrogant defamation of homosexuals and women and booted this oppressive administration. This reform will never pass and the military shall remain free from conservative zealotry! Alistair Sullivan MP Member for Loren Defence Minister-designate |
| Date | 21:36:01, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, yet again, we see the conservophobic bigotry of the liberal elite. If Alistair Sullivan is to become the next Defence Minister then I truly pity our servicemen. Next I suppose they will have transvestites and transsexuals inflicted on them? Hywel Wigley MP Minister of Defence |
| Date | 21:53:08, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I have no reservations to transvestites and transsexuals serving in the military. Contrary to the ideologically blindfolded acting Defence Minister, I judge soldiers by their skills and bravery and willingness to defend our nation rather than irrelevant factors such as sexuality and personal style. Alistair Sullivan MP Member for Loren Defence Minister-designate |
| Date | 22:20:01, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I'm not sure Alistair Sullivan's kind of army would strike terror into the hearts of our enemies... Hywel Wigley MP Minister of Defence |
| Date | 22:27:15, May 13, 2013 CET | From | ACT Dranland | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We find these proposals most disgusting and insulting to the armed forces, homosexuals, and women. All that this proposal suggests is that some people do not believe that our military is capable of doing its duty professionally. Bernardino Rivero MP, Defence spokesperson |
| Date | 22:27:27, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I can assure the Hon. Members, it would be crushingly better than Mr Wigley's army that allows only for one half of the population minus non-straights to participate in it. Alistair Sullivan MP Member for Loren Defence Minister-designate |
| Date | 22:36:53, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We hear the fag lovers crying out loud because someone stands up and speaks the truth. Good for them. God laughs in the faces of these crybabies. Heiro Fahramar, MP WD Transport Spokesperson |
| Date | 22:49:15, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, it is a pity that so many of our lawmakers cannot put the needs of Dranland's national security above their personal emotions on this issue. It is selfish for women and gays to insist on their "right" to be in the army. If we are going to talk about "rights", what about the "right" of the Dranish people to be professionally defended? I call on parliamentarians to consider what it would be like for male heterosexual soldiers to be in constant physical proximity to women and overt homosexuals. This is an enormously uncomfortable and distracting position to be in. They should be focussed on fighting the enemy, not worrying about whether their comrades are going to make a move on them. Hywel Wigley MP Minister of Defence Chairman of the Dranish Conservative Party |
| Date | 22:55:18, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Modesty in the military reform act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, if misbehavior occurs, there will be consequences. However, what this government will never accept is barring certain groups of people from defending the nation based on idiotic preconceptions as those the theofascists are ruminating in their intellectual delirium. As for Mr Fahramar typically immature ranting, he may very well laugh into our faces, but as soon as this fascist proposal has been crushingly rejected by this sane Parliament, it will be him who will see the smirk slapped off his hate-twisted face. Hopefully it will hurt. Alistair Sullivan MP Member for Loren Defence Minister-designate |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 118 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 257 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 24 |
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