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Bill: Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision
Details
Submitted by[?]: Slaytanic Wehrmacht
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2161
Description[?]:
| As the 100 Seats Parliament does seem to favour big parties very clearly, we had to think about our point there and decided to change our opinion. We propose a parliament consisting of exactly 500 people, 100 from each of the Five Nations. Because the Five Nations of Lodamun are to be very federal, each Nation has to have the same right to decide about the most important issues in this country. No Nation should have more or less seats than any other. Even though a nation may have more inhabitants, be richer or more diverse than another, this should not influence their representation in the parliament. How can we be Five Independent Nations, if some nations are more powerful than others? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The method used to determine the number of seats each region receives in the national legislature.
Old value:: A proportional algorithm that gives a very small advantage to larger regions.
Current: Equal representation, regardless of region population.
Proposed: Equal representation, regardless of region population.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 100
Current: 365
Proposed: 500
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:28:28, December 18, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | e A few calculations with our last elections: Partyname | Voters | Voters % | Seats (at same time also seats %) with our current system | Seats with proposed System | Seats % with proposed system FR | 10.886.791 | 38,82% | 43 | 190 | 38,00% SW | 3.778.565 | 13,47% | 15 | 67 | 13,40% DSP | 3.720.654 | 13,27% | 13 | 69 | 13,80% CNT | 2.790.012 | 9,95% | 9 | 52 | 10,40% FG | 2.093.775 | 7,47% | 6 | 36 | 7,20% FFP | 1.829.678 | 6,52% | 5 | 33 | 6,60% LM | 1.473.324 | 5,25% | 5 | 27 | 5,40% LCL | 1.468.542 | 5,24% | 4 | 26 | 5,20% You see, the new system would be a lot fairer, and all parties has an advantage or disadvantage of less 1% comparing % of parliament to % of voters. |
| Date | 16:52:55, December 18, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | Great. |
| Date | 22:41:40, December 18, 2005 CET | From | International Society of Bankers | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | We need to wait one more election, if it is still mest up we will support. |
| Date | 22:42:37, December 18, 2005 CET | From | International Society of Bankers | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | and we would support if brought to 200, not 500. |
| Date | 22:48:09, December 18, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | 500 makes calculations so much easier. |
| Date | 23:32:05, December 18, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | I will never support Article 1. Perhaps when we are able to have 2 houses, such as the US system, I will consider such a mix. But in a one house legislature, each person should have equal votes. Thus I will support a reversion to 300 or 200. Im not sure about 500. |
| Date | 04:01:21, December 19, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | 300's good. |
| Date | 05:19:04, December 19, 2005 CET | From | International Society of Bankers | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | We wouldnt support article 1 either - I didnt see it originally. |
| Date | 06:40:10, December 19, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | Well, ok, we can keep the current settings. I gained seats from it, so i like it. If you can agree to a compromise, go on, propose it. I, however, will either support this or stick with the old system. |
| Date | 16:28:32, December 19, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | The old system is agreeable to us, however, we would like to be sure that this election's distortion is not due to some fluke(from the server move, etc.). Thus, we propose to wait one election, then revert to 300 again. Numbers less than 300 are also fine with us. |
| Date | 20:10:55, December 23, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | After the elections, i think 100 is not enough for accurate representation. With 16 seats in golavia, you need at least 5% to have a chance to get seats, anything less, and your votes are gone. |
| Date | 08:29:44, December 24, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | I didn't expect this to have a chance of passing. But now i have to ask lm or fg to reconsider, because the current system is very unfair, compared to the one i proposed. |
| Date | 08:37:27, December 24, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | We worked very hard to get article 1 the way it is. |
| Date | 09:01:15, December 24, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | It doesnt really work, though. Golavia is just too small compared to Kregon. |
| Date | 17:05:08, December 24, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | So. One man, one vote. |
| Date | 22:20:01, December 24, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the Slaytanic Wehrmacht: Undoing A Previous Decision |
| Message | The Kregon People have no right to decide over the Golavia People. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 63 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 37 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Culturally Open nations can adopt advisory/non-enforceable Nation Descriptions. See http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6242 |
| Random quote: "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Ronald Reagan (1911 - 2004) |