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Bill: Localized Subsidy Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Centrist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2053
Description[?]:
| It is hereby proposed that the central government devolve subsidization of farming to local governments. Local governments are closer to the farms and thus have a better idea of where this money should be spent. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: The government subsidises the operations of low-income farming families.
Current: The government allows local governments to craft agricultural subsidy policy.
Proposed: The government allows local governments to craft agricultural subsidy policy.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:28:15, May 13, 2005 CET | From | To | Debating the Localized Subsidy Act |
| Message | We oppose this bill. We feel central government should be setting economic poicy. |
| Date | 20:54:08, May 13, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Localized Subsidy Act |
| Message | Central government is a long ways away from the home farm, y'know. The local towns and countrysides have a better idea where to spend that money. |
| Date | 05:43:31, May 14, 2005 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Localized Subsidy Act |
| Message | Central Government should control this. |
| Date | 20:19:44, May 14, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Localized Subsidy Act |
| Message | Hmph. What is so great about government control? |
| Date | 09:35:45, May 15, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Localized Subsidy Act |
| Message | Nono, please, don't take that disparagingly. I realize now my phrasing was awful, but I really am curious. What is superior about having this as a national policy instead of a local one? |
| Date | 21:15:37, May 15, 2005 CET | From | To | Debating the Localized Subsidy Act |
| Message | Central government can set policy to treat all regions fairly, for example helping those with less developed economies and so helping to avoid internal economic migration at the expense of poorer regions. Local Governments may have too narrow an outlook that could cause problems at a national level or additional cost - in the example above those increasingly poorer regions need more social welfare. |
| Date | 05:05:22, May 16, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Localized Subsidy Act |
| Message | I'll concede the point that a bad local policy on some things can cause national problems - like pollution standards; one really polluted region can damage the entire nation's ecology. However, on this account I don't see how they could badly damage things. What could go wrong? Also, what is bad about 'internal economic migration'? How does it cause anyone expense? |
| Date | 18:13:08, May 16, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Localized Subsidy Act |
| Message | I'm taking this to vote, but I still want to continue the discussion. Can anyone answer my questions? |
| Date | 19:47:57, May 16, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Localized Subsidy Act |
| Message | "Also, what is bad about 'internal economic migration'? How does it cause anyone expense?" It encourages any rich-poor divide that is developing in the country and increases regional prejudice. It will also alienate voters in the poorer regions who feel that their needs are being neglected, and are therefore more likely to be dissatisfied and prone to revolt. |
| Date | 23:12:27, May 16, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Localized Subsidy Act |
| Message | LPE: Thanks for the answer to that. It makes more sense now why that would be bad. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 89 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 75 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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