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Bill: State Religion Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Traxian Imperial Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2158
Description[?]:
| This party believes the country needs the moral guidance a state religion can provide. As such we propose a religion based on our acient myth is organised. And that the old gods are returned. Membership of the Gaduri Religion will be completely voluntary. It is also better civil liberites and freedom for the people who wish to support a state religion. The implemention of this will have various consequences such as schools having the freedom to choose whether to run paryers or not, depending upon parent attitudes. To get this moving as fast as possible it will forgo debate. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Proposed: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:29:21, December 19, 2005 CET | From | Post-Revolutionary Pragmatic Party | To | Debating the State Religion Act |
| Message | We disagree. This is not 'better civil liberties and freedom', this is the opposite. State and religion should be firmly apart - morals have no place in politics. |
| Date | 00:34:27, December 19, 2005 CET | From | Traxian Imperial Party | To | Debating the State Religion Act |
| Message | How does implementing a voluntary religion cut back on civil liberties and morals? Religions provide a moral code for those that follow it, how is a moral code a bad thing? This is not putting religion into politics this is letting the people support a state religion. OOC: you may be non-religios in RL, I personally am against organised religions (but do believe in some theological ideas) but was raised under one and as such have a moral code. But we should not let RL ideas play a part in this game but look to what is best for 'our country'. |
| Date | 01:01:35, December 19, 2005 CET | From | Post-Revolutionary Pragmatic Party | To | Debating the State Religion Act |
| Message | OOC: Ideology certainly has a place in politics - I can't say that my real life views aren't, to a large extent, my party's, but it would break character to suddenly disavow those ideas, no? 'sides, it's the opposition's duty to oppose. If I'd just approve everything, where would the fun be? :p IC: In our view, the state is an institution that exists to serve its citizens. All citizens, regardless of gender, creed, or religion. Establishing a state religion runs directly contrary to that principle: even if it's not mandatory, there will exist two kinds of citizens, which undermines the idea of equality before the law. Our citizens should be free to believe as they will, and once again, we should not give in to our impulses to control those whom we represent. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 138 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 166 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 137 |
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