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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of April 3512
Details
Submitted by[?]: União Democrática do Tukarali
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3512
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the União Democrática do Tukarali
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Alliance for Progress
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Alliance for Progress
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the União Democrática do Tukarali
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Alliance for Progress
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Alliance for Progress
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the União Democrática do Tukarali
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the União Democrática do Tukarali
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the União Democrática do Tukarali
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Alliance for Progress
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the União Democrática do Tukarali
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the União Democrática do Tukarali
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the União Democrática do Tukarali
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:59:58, July 08, 2013 CET | From | Socialist Workers Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3512 |
| Message | The SWP doesn't believe it to be fair to be excluded from the cabinet when we represent a good amount of the Tukarali people. |
| Date | 23:19:04, July 08, 2013 CET | From | União Democrática do Tukarali | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3512 |
| Message | "A democracy needs a strong opposition. The SWP is far better suited to that role than to being stuck in a cabinet with the moderate parties. That's why we have decided not to propose an all-party cabinet, which should be reserved for extreme emergency situations, but a coalition of the centrist forces." Amilcar Abreu, Chanceler de la República Democrática and leader of the TDU |
| Date | 10:36:14, July 09, 2013 CET | From | Socialist Workers Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3512 |
| Message | For the TDU to say that 13 million voters are better represented by being in the opposition and not part of the government of Tukarali is insulting to not only us but to all the workers of Tukarali who only deserve fair representation and equal rights. The SWP demands an apology from the TDU. And we'd like to point out that the TDU has proposed and passed an all TDU cabinet every election as long as it was in the majority and the only reason it doesn't do so now is not because of an "extreme emergency situation" but because it no longer has the votes because the people of Tukarali are fed up with this one party rule that has taken place for far too long. |
| Date | 16:50:56, July 09, 2013 CET | From | União Democrática do Tukarali | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3512 |
| Message | OOC: In parliamentary democracies, it is unusual for all parties to hold ministerial posts. Usually, if one party wins a majority of their own in an election, they afterwards form a single party government/cabinet. If no one party alone has a majority, a coalition is formed between two or more parties, and only those parties hold ministerial posts. Those parties not represented in the government form the parliamentary opposition, which provides alternative ideas and is an essential party of a working democracy. All-party governments are usually reserved for emergency situations. So, when my party held a majority of their own, I formed single-party governments. Now that my party doesn't have its own majority, I propose a coalition government with the party that is ideologically closer to mine than the SWP is. |
| Date | 16:56:08, July 09, 2013 CET | From | União Democrática do Tukarali | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3512 |
| Message | "We see no reason at all to apologise to the SWP. Being represented in parliament does not automatically entitle a party to representation at the cabinet table. Being in opposition is a very honourable position, and having 13 million voters behind them provides the SWP with an excellent opportunity to act as a vigorous and creative opposition." Amilcar Abreu, Chanceler de la República Democrática and leader of the TDU |
| Date | 17:11:05, July 09, 2013 CET | From | Alliance for Progress | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3512 |
| Message | A plurality of voters were in favour of the TDU, and in order to respect their wishes, the Moderate Alliance has decided to form cabinet with the TDU, even if it means not having the Head of Government position, which we would have had under the SWP's proposal. We will, however not tolerate any swings away from the center and towards the right or even far-left. |
| Date | 17:24:09, July 09, 2013 CET | From | Alliance for Progress | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3512 |
| Message | I would like to point out, SWP, that every single party in this country would take all the ministerial positions if they held a majority of the seats in the legislature... |
| Date | 19:56:48, July 09, 2013 CET | From | Socialist Workers Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3512 |
| Message | OOC: I know how parliamentary systems work. I'm Canadian. However, it doesn't stop the SWP from feeling left out of the government and sidelined. |
| Date | 19:58:07, July 09, 2013 CET | From | Socialist Workers Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3512 |
| Message | The SWP is utterly disappointed with the so-called Moderate Alliance for siding with such obvious right wing religious extremists that the TDU are. |
| Date | 20:39:41, July 09, 2013 CET | From | União Democrática do Tukarali | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3512 |
| Message | "The extremist atheist policies of the Socialist Workers Party have been rejected by a majority of the voters of Tukarali. Now it is time that they stop moaning and start formulating some constructive opposition policies." Amilcar Abreu, Chanceler de la República Democrática and leader of the TDU |
| Date | 21:20:05, July 09, 2013 CET | From | União Democrática do Tukarali | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3512 |
| Message | OOC: SWP, as your first and second posts were a little ambiguous about being IC or OOC, it was not clear whether it was your party or yourself that didn't accept normal parliamentarian government building. Having seen so many players who thought that the mere existence of their parties entitled them to ministerial posts I thought I'd better give an explanation. Giving a clear indication about a post being IC or OOC could help to avoid such misunderstandings. I usually give my IC posts a quotes from one of my politicians. You don't have to do the same, but I've always found that it gives more of a feel of real parliamentary debates this way. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 96 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 29 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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