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Bill: Bill for Encouraging DWCs
Details
Submitted by[?]: Sunbeam Squad
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3530
Description[?]:
It has been scientifically proven that worker-run industries are more efficient than ordinary industries. DWCs must be encouraged so workers will depend less on private employers which treat them like sub-humans. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Current: The government encourages the formation of Democratic Workers' Councils through subsidies and tax exemptions.
Proposed: The government encourages the formation of Democratic Workers' Councils through subsidies and tax exemptions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 16:45:24, August 13, 2013 CET | From | Capitalist Working Families | To | Debating the Bill for Encouraging DWCs |
Message | NPU, what is WRONG with this bill? DWCs are NOT "socialism" but are another form of CAPITALISM!!! |
Date | 16:45:59, August 13, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Union | To | Debating the Bill for Encouraging DWCs |
Message | Mr. Speaker, I don't see the profit on spending public money on DWCs, rather than let the free market go on and let enterprising people preserve their intellectual property in their own (and owned) companies. Alex Zorman, DU Trade and Industry manager |
Date | 17:23:08, August 13, 2013 CET | From | Sunbeam Squad | To | Debating the Bill for Encouraging DWCs |
Message | Mr. Speaker, First of all, free market dogma should not be mistaken for an immutable law of nature. Secondly, there will be someone who will own a DWC-run industry, namely, the workers, who actually produce the goods Rutanians use. Time and again a worker, just because he is a worker, is treated like a second class citizen. He has limited rights for protest; and the most fundamental of his rights are subsumed in favor of the property rights of his employers. A worker, most of the time is nothing more than a property of industrialists, a wage slave. The minimum wage is not even enough for a worker to feed his family, let alone stay out of poverty. Working conditions in Rutania are appalling and it must be changed. We must sort out Rutania's priorities: People come before property. Human rights are more important than property rights. We already encourage the use of environmentally-friendly vehicles through subsidies and tax-exemptions, because it is in the interest of Rutanians--in fact, all of Terra--that we do so, that we curb down on the exploitation of the environment. We are applying the same principle with regards to DWCs--we need to curb down on the exploitation of people. We must encourage the growth of industry management that is less exploitative than what we have at present. Amelia Granger SS Leader |
Date | 18:58:26, August 13, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Union | To | Debating the Bill for Encouraging DWCs |
Message | Ms. Granger, I must say that your arguments are true. The current government is destroying the rights of the Rutanian workers: forbidding collective bargaining in some provinces, allowing firing workers that have gone on strike, etc. It's true that in DWCs, workers manage their own company. And it's probable that DWCs will go worse than regular companies, since workers would probably look after their own profit and salary and not for the general success of the company. But Rutanian workers deserve better rights, and until they have them, encouraging DWCs is a good provisional step. We will change our vote to yea, but when the workers' conditions get better, we will propose to remove the subsidies and tax exemptions that we establish now. Alex Zorman, DU Trade and Industry manager |
Date | 19:13:51, August 13, 2013 CET | From | Urban Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Bill for Encouraging DWCs |
Message | Mr. Speaker, It's sad that the left views unions as the solution when really, they are the problem. Marta Wilson UPR Congressional Leader |
Date | 19:58:59, August 13, 2013 CET | From | Minarchist League of Rutania | To | Debating the Bill for Encouraging DWCs |
Message | Mr. Speaker, There is no need for special treatment for DWCs. If they are so much more efficient than other companies, they should not need our money. Harold McNeil Deputy Chairman, MLR |
Date | 22:46:52, August 13, 2013 CET | From | Sunbeam Squad | To | Debating the Bill for Encouraging DWCs |
Message | Mr. Speaker, If the UPR is as contemptuous of unions as they appear to be, the surely they must not object to encouraging DWCs, which eliminate the the need for unions because it puts management at the direct control of the workers? The UPR clearly has not put much thought on this subject. And to address Mr. Zorman's concerns, company executives too tend to look after their own profit and salary; but unlike workers, company executives produce nothing. So why don't we give a second thought to company executives running an industry? Why must workers and the underprivileged be put under special scrutiny as if they should not be subject to ordinary human motivations? Worker-run industries are in fact more efficient than the industries we are accustomed to; first of all, because they cut down on all the bloat--company executives and their rocket-high salaries and their crew of bureaucratic underlings--and workers are more tied to the quality and success of their company's products since their livelihood--and I stress livelihood--hangs on it. They have families to feed and not just yachts to buy. As for Mr. McNeil's objections, corporations have been given enough special privilege by the government of Rutania. The government has repeatedly undermined resistance to corporate malpractice and capitalist exploitation. The federal government has the opposition of the local government; the executive of Rutania must answer to Parliament; and the Parliamentary powers must adhere to the rulings of the Supreme Court--answer me: why should corporate power remain unopposed? Opposition to capitalist overreach has been repeatedly demolished by anarcho-capitalist elements in Rutania, of which the Minarchist Party plays a large part. So why must the government support DWCs? Because the anarcho-capitalist attack of workers' rights have so impoverished workers that often they cannot accumulate enough capital to create their own company. The anarcho-capitalist dogma has been constantly pounded into the heads of Rutanians that many Rutanians are ignorant of alternatives. The government of Rutania must compensate for all the misery it has caused from relegating the working class into second-class citizens. Amelia Granger SS Leader |
Date | 10:31:58, August 14, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Union | To | Debating the Bill for Encouraging DWCs |
Message | *Applause* |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 187 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 368 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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