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Bill: Taxation of religious institutions
Details
Submitted by[?]: Sunbeam Squad
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 3533
Description[?]:
| This is to prevent the growth of cults set up purposely to evade taxation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: No religions are taxed.
Current: No religions are taxed.
Proposed: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:08:54, August 20, 2013 CET | From |  Capitalist Working Families | To | Debating the Taxation of religious institutions |
| Message | Ms. Amelia Granger, Prime Minister: (1) This bill will INFRINGE on the INDIVIDUAL Rutanian People's RELIGIOUS FREEDOM if they choose to associate in a religion that is NOT supported by the so-called "majority" (or MOB-rule). (2) This bill will indirectly RESULT in a THEOCRATIC government that endorses the GOVERNMENT'S religious preference even if the MAJORITY of the people does NOT agree with the "GOVERNMENT's religion." For example, if the MAJORITY of the PEOPLE are REFORM JEWS, then a ROMAN CATHOLIC Administration can only RECOGNIZE the RCC's schools instead of the JEWISH schools. Such a bill would be potentially ANTI-semitic. --The Capitalist Working FAMILIES Party Spokeman |
| Date | 04:20:36, August 20, 2013 CET | From | Sunbeam Squad | To | Debating the Taxation of religious institutions |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It is pretty clear that recognised religions meant by this bill are the major religions in Terra - Hosianism, Yeudism, Ahmadism, etc. There would be no theocratic despotism in the first place because Rutania is a secular state and is primarily atheist. Amelia Granger, Prime Minister |
| Date | 05:42:40, August 20, 2013 CET | From | Capitalist Working Families | To | Debating the Taxation of religious institutions |
| Message | Madame Granger, If Rutania is PRIMARILY Athiest as you suggest, then WHY would they want THEIR government to recognize ANY religion whether it is Hosianism, Ahmadism, Yeudism, or WHATEVER??? "Religious institutions that use GOVERNMENT POWER in support of themselves and FORCE their views on persons of other faiths, or of NO FAITH, undermine ALL our civil rights. Moreover, STATE SUPPORT of an ESTABLISHED RELIGION--[Hosianism, etc.]--tends to make the clergy UNRESPONSIVE to their own people, and leads to CORRUPTION within religion itself. Erecting the 'wall of separation between church and state,' therefore, is absolutely ESSENTIAL in a FREE society.” ―Anonymous POPULIST LIBERTARIAN-- --The Capitalist WORKING FAMILIES Party Spokesman OOC: For those that were INTERESTED in "unmasking" the "Anonymous Populist," just send me a private message. |
| Date | 11:39:32, August 20, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Union | To | Debating the Taxation of religious institutions |
| Message | Ms. Granger, We don't agree on preferential treatment of 'majority' religions. We believe in taxation on every single religion, but not on some of them. Erik Culster, DU Parlamentary Speaker |
| Date | 14:30:34, August 20, 2013 CET | From | National Purity Union | To | Debating the Taxation of religious institutions |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This bill maintains the freedoms of all followers of true religions. We support this bill and all others that will stamp out the pernicious cults in our midst. -Ron Silvermage, NPU spokesman |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 241 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 246 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 68 |
| Random fact: Moderation will not implement nation renaming requests where the proposed name does not comply with the requirements set out in the Nation Renaming Guide: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6364 |
| Random quote: "In politics, you have your word and your friends; go back on either and you're dead." - Morton C. Blackwell |