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Bill: Income tax proposal of August 3536

Details

Submitted by[?]: Popular Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill proposes to change income taxes. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 3537

Description[?]:

The Popular Party propose to adjust the government's income tax policy to better address the economic situation of the Republic of Dranland.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date07:42:37, August 27, 2013 CET
FromPopular Action Party 인기있는 행동
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of August 3536
MessageMr Speaker,

I can not believe that anyone would put so many people through the pain of an essential sales tax, just to lob off 4 points from the income tax top rate. We support an essential goods tax but not one meant to subsidise high income earners. Does Mr Banez truly believe that cutting spending and hiking indirect taxes in the middle of an economic recession will improve the economy?

Timothy Omundsson MP
DSU Finance Crtic
Member for Loren

Date14:34:07, August 27, 2013 CET
FromGrand National Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of August 3536
MessageMr Speaker,

it must be quite obvious even for any economic halfwit that when unemployment is at 10%, consumption or demand is NOT the problem! The lack of investment is, and poor people simply cannot invest and set up the huge new business ventures we need to create jobs. Thus, we need to free resources from government spending and inject them into the private sector via tax cuts for those who can invest. The 6% GST will not hurt anyone excessively given the low inflation we currently have.

George Rafferty MP
Member for Magadonia
RFR Finance Spokesman

Date15:02:22, August 27, 2013 CET
FromPopular Action Party 인기있는 행동
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of August 3536
MessageMr Speaker,

Mr Rafferty, your argument makes no sense even to this lackwit. Investment is driven by consumption and demand, investors won't just throw money at weak economic sectors where there is no demand because that would cause a loss and the whole point of creating an enterprise is profit. That is WHY unemployment is so high! Government has to encourage stronger consumption and therefore HIGHER demand. I strongly disagree that a sudden 6% increase to prices while incomes are depressed would not hurt anyone or that it will encourage investment..

Timothy Omundsson MP
DSU Finance Crtic
Member for Loren

Date17:49:02, August 27, 2013 CET
FromGrand National Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of August 3536
MessageMr Speaker,

once again the Hon. Member is wrong - if demand were the primary engine of growth, we would never have gotten into this crisis, because everyone knows that wages were artificially boosted beyond the market value of labor by the Yates administration recklessly. The recession occurred not because we imposed austerity, but because companies had to lay off people and stopped investing due to crippling regulation, high taxes and generally socialism. Furthermore, one doesn't need to be an academic to perceive a glaring unbalance between the factor of demand, which is taxed zero, and the factor investment, which is taxed twice with 20 and up to 39 percent at the time.

George Rafferty MP
Member for Magadonia
RFR Finance Spokesman

Date18:06:18, August 27, 2013 CET
FromPopular Action Party 인기있는 행동
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of August 3536
MessageOOC: Now I'm totally lost, before I was just slightly lost. Say what?

Date18:31:16, August 27, 2013 CET
FromGrand National Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of August 3536
MessageOOC: I'm trying to argue that too low demand is not the problem, but a lack of investment. Sorry if I couldn't get it across^^

My point is that because under Yates wages rose so much (thus higher demand) and nevertheless an economic crisis ensued, more demand can't be the solution to the crisis.

Date18:46:05, August 27, 2013 CET
FromPopular Action Party 인기있는 행동
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of August 3536
MessageOOC: No problem, it's more of my poor grasp of economics (I'm more of a Science man) that. i understand now fully what you meant.

Date19:16:43, August 27, 2013 CET
FromGrand National Party
ToDebating the Income tax proposal of August 3536
MessageOOC: It's hardly imaginable that this profound economic discussion would actually have taken place in a real Parliament haha^^

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Voting

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Total Seats: 177

no
     

Total Seats: 202

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Total Seats: 20


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