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Bill: Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3541
Description[?]:
| The leading lights of the Jacobites fully endorse workers benefiting from the product of their labour rather than the greedy capitalist class. This bill aims to brig control of business under workers councils, following the nationalisation of private businesses. The government will help workers councils achieve this. The workers deserve the product of their labours. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The banking system.
Old value:: All banks are privately owned.
Current: All banks are privately owned.
Proposed: The government operates large, national banks, but small community based private banks are allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Civil defence is the government's policy on providing shelters to be used in the event of attacks on major cities, mainly nuclear attacks and bombing.
Old value:: Local authorities are responsible for building and maintaining shelters.
Current: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Proposed: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Energy regulation.
Old value:: Energy is provided by private companies which are not subject to any special regulations.
Current: Energy is provided by private companies which are not subject to any special regulations.
Proposed: Energy is provided by nationalised companies.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change
The government's policy regarding foreign investments.
Old value:: Foreign investors may freely invest in national companies.
Current: Foreign investors may invest in national companies, but may not get a majority share.
Proposed: Foreign investors need to obtain government approval for all investments in national companies.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Current: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Proposed: The state owns the commanding heights of the economy and all major industries, but private ownership is allowed in the minor industries.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The funding of sports clubs.
Old value:: Local governments decide the funding policy of sports clubs.
Current: The government funds some sports clubs side-by-side with private ones.
Proposed: All sports clubs are government owned and run.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Train Operating Companies (TOC).
Old value:: Private companies operate regional TOC's. The national service is provided by a publicly owned, national TOC.
Current: Private companies operate TOCs throughout the country.
Proposed: There is a single publicly owned TOC.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Current: The government requires all businesses to be run by Democratic Workers' Councils.
Proposed: The government requires all businesses to be run by Democratic Workers' Councils.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:18:28, September 02, 2013 CET | From | Republican Party (GOP) | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | We the Republican Party will vote against this bill. |
| Date | 21:08:26, September 02, 2013 CET | From | Jacobites | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | We accept the views and comments of our coalition partners. |
| Date | 21:54:49, September 02, 2013 CET | From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | The ULF will vote against this bill as it increases government and tramples on the essential liberties of the people of Alduria. |
| Date | 09:15:36, September 03, 2013 CET | From | Jacobites | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | Bearing in mind it gives control of most industries to the workers how does it trample on their rights. The ULP need to publicly state that they are for the rights of the few rather than the many. |
| Date | 10:09:26, September 03, 2013 CET | From | ConNaP | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | We can support: 1,3,4,5,8 |
| Date | 11:30:41, September 03, 2013 CET | From | Jacobites | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | Thank you ConNaP we shall propose see rate legislation with just those articles if this fails. |
| Date | 16:24:30, September 03, 2013 CET | From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | How does it gives control of most industries to the workers? All this bill does is hand over everything to the government. In what way is giving government control over the banks and over the companies giving control to the workers? |
| Date | 17:45:17, September 03, 2013 CET | From | Jacobites | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | Article 7. Read the proposals before being stupid. |
| Date | 19:32:59, September 03, 2013 CET | From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | Before being stupid? Sir, read every other article proposed before making a fool of yourself. Article 7 doesn't magically make workers in control of government ran businesses and industries, and even sports clubs for heaven's sake. It is you and your party that are being stupid. |
| Date | 22:13:22, September 03, 2013 CET | From | Jacobites | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | You are quite misguided. This legislation would take business out of the corrupt hands of the capitalist filth such as the ULF and give it to the workers as outlined in the proposed legislation. The ULF comments suggest that they cannot grasp this simple idea, which makes you wonder how our economy has survived in the hands of the ULF paymasters. |
| Date | 22:28:46, September 03, 2013 CET | From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | It survived because free markets work; socialism does not. We have seen this happen time and time again. Socialism fails, history tells us this. It has failed in every single country that has ever tried it; why? Because the government controls industry and the businesses and the people do not. There is only one system in where people control their businesses and that is capitalism. People who start a business own it and control it. Only an idiot would start a business and allow his employ to have a voice in the executive decision making process. Why should a janitor decide on what sort of marketing scheme we use? He shouldn't, he's hired to clean and that is what he needs to do. Employs don't need to control a business, entrepreneurs do. Why is it greed for people who did the work to start a business and took the chance and used their money to start it to want to do well and profit, and it isn't greed for people with no education, who showed no work ethic or took no risk to demand more. You want people to be rewarded for laziness and its stupid. |
| Date | 22:40:07, September 03, 2013 CET | From | Jacobites | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | Which socialist nations in Terra have failed? Which capitalist nations have succeeded? Your lies do not advance your ignoble cause. You refer to the workers as idiots. This is why we must protect he workers from exploitative capitalism. The ULF would happily destroy the workers in the name of freedom, they already seek to destroy the minimum wage, and oppose attempts to protect children from labour. We want people to be rewarded for laziness? Er, what, we wish to reward he workers, you wish to reward share holders and tax exiles who sit on their fat arses. |
| Date | 22:47:39, September 03, 2013 CET | From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | You hate success. You favor those who get jobs and not those who make them. We don't favor anybody, We want everyone who wants to start a business or industry or corporation to be able to do so and to be successful. Capitalism is freedom, you advocate totalitarianism, that is why you lost half of your seats in the last election. |
| Date | 22:51:28, September 03, 2013 CET | From | Jacobites | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | As mentioned in other bills your gains at the last election were quie poor compared to other new parties such as the Jacobites in the 3520s. You are for corrupt capitalist, not even successful ones and you have the workers, stop lying. |
| Date | 11:15:48, September 04, 2013 CET | From | ConNaP | To | Debating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers |
| Message | We will abstain. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 82 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 316 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 217 |
| Random fact: Players using inactive accounts and/or accounts from outside nations may only propose bills and/or contribute to discussions, whether IC (in-character) or OOC (out-of-character) with the general consent of the players in the nation. |
| Random quote: On 7th February 4281 a group of renowned Metzist experts from all across Terra met in Haldor to form the International Committee for the Estimation of the End Date of Capitalism (ICEEDC). With the assistance of a powerful computer, they calculated that capitalism will terminate Terra-wide on 6th November 4320, and in Dorvik on April 17th 4310. We have no reason whatsoever to believe these very eminent and learned scholars are wrong. They have never been wrong about anything before. ~ Friedrich Pfeiffer, General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party |