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Bill: Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers

Details

Submitted by[?]: Jacobites

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 3541

Description[?]:

The leading lights of the Jacobites fully endorse workers benefiting from the product of their labour rather than the greedy capitalist class. This bill aims to brig control of business under workers councils, following the nationalisation of private businesses. The government will help workers councils achieve this. The workers deserve the product of their labours.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:18:28, September 02, 2013 CET
FromRepublican Party (GOP)
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageWe the Republican Party will vote against this bill.

Date21:08:26, September 02, 2013 CET
FromJacobites
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageWe accept the views and comments of our coalition partners.

Date21:54:49, September 02, 2013 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageThe ULF will vote against this bill as it increases government and tramples on the essential liberties of the people of Alduria.

Date09:15:36, September 03, 2013 CET
FromJacobites
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageBearing in mind it gives control of most industries to the workers how does it trample on their rights. The ULP need to publicly state that they are for the rights of the few rather than the many.

Date10:09:26, September 03, 2013 CET
FromConNaP
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageWe can support: 1,3,4,5,8

Date11:30:41, September 03, 2013 CET
FromJacobites
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageThank you ConNaP we shall propose see rate legislation with just those articles if this fails.

Date16:24:30, September 03, 2013 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageHow does it gives control of most industries to the workers? All this bill does is hand over everything to the government. In what way is giving government control over the banks and over the companies giving control to the workers?

Date17:45:17, September 03, 2013 CET
FromJacobites
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageArticle 7. Read the proposals before being stupid.

Date19:32:59, September 03, 2013 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageBefore being stupid? Sir, read every other article proposed before making a fool of yourself. Article 7 doesn't magically make workers in control of government ran businesses and industries, and even sports clubs for heaven's sake. It is you and your party that are being stupid.

Date22:13:22, September 03, 2013 CET
FromJacobites
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageYou are quite misguided. This legislation would take business out of the corrupt hands of the capitalist filth such as the ULF and give it to the workers as outlined in the proposed legislation. The ULF comments suggest that they cannot grasp this simple idea, which makes you wonder how our economy has survived in the hands of the ULF paymasters.

Date22:28:46, September 03, 2013 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageIt survived because free markets work; socialism does not. We have seen this happen time and time again. Socialism fails, history tells us this. It has failed in every single country that has ever tried it; why? Because the government controls industry and the businesses and the people do not. There is only one system in where people control their businesses and that is capitalism. People who start a business own it and control it. Only an idiot would start a business and allow his employ to have a voice in the executive decision making process. Why should a janitor decide on what sort of marketing scheme we use? He shouldn't, he's hired to clean and that is what he needs to do. Employs don't need to control a business, entrepreneurs do. Why is it greed for people who did the work to start a business and took the chance and used their money to start it to want to do well and profit, and it isn't greed for people with no education, who showed no work ethic or took no risk to demand more. You want people to be rewarded for laziness and its stupid.

Date22:40:07, September 03, 2013 CET
FromJacobites
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageWhich socialist nations in Terra have failed? Which capitalist nations have succeeded? Your lies do not advance your ignoble cause. You refer to the workers as idiots. This is why we must protect he workers from exploitative capitalism. The ULF would happily destroy the workers in the name of freedom, they already seek to destroy the minimum wage, and oppose attempts to protect children from labour. We want people to be rewarded for laziness? Er, what, we wish to reward he workers, you wish to reward share holders and tax exiles who sit on their fat arses.

Date22:47:39, September 03, 2013 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageYou hate success. You favor those who get jobs and not those who make them. We don't favor anybody, We want everyone who wants to start a business or industry or corporation to be able to do so and to be successful. Capitalism is freedom, you advocate totalitarianism, that is why you lost half of your seats in the last election.

Date22:51:28, September 03, 2013 CET
FromJacobites
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageAs mentioned in other bills your gains at the last election were quie poor compared to other new parties such as the Jacobites in the 3520s. You are for corrupt capitalist, not even successful ones and you have the workers, stop lying.

Date11:15:48, September 04, 2013 CET
FromConNaP
ToDebating the Bill for the Rights and Powers of Workers
MessageWe will abstain.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 82

no
    

Total Seats: 316

abstain
  

Total Seats: 217


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