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Bill: Call for early elections, December 2050

Details

Submitted by[?]: Democratic Centre Party of Gaduridos

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill requests an early election. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline. Elections will be held immediately if the bill passes.

Voting deadline: August 2051

Description[?]:

We, the Democratic Centre Party, call for early elections as soon as we can reach a consensus.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date15:28:36, May 12, 2005 CET
FromDemocratic Centre Party of Gaduridos
ToDebating the Call for early elections, December 2050
MessageThe new Frankenstein cabinet of conservative and socialist parties is an embarassment to our nation. Since the CRIP is too incompetent to form a proper cabinet which could work cohesively, we ought to have elections now, so as to elect a Philosopher who knows how to do the job.

Date16:04:00, May 12, 2005 CET
FromNational Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, December 2050
Messagewe need more elections.

Date17:34:14, May 12, 2005 CET
FromNational Democratic Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, December 2050
MessageWhat are you talking about? The new cabinet which consists of the CRIP, the SDP and the PPP is absolutely fine. One suspects that the DCP is smarting over losing all their power. The NDP on the other hand, has accepted the new cabinet with dignity and grace.

Date18:59:36, May 12, 2005 CET
FromDemocratic Centre Party of Gaduridos
ToDebating the Call for early elections, December 2050
MessageIf I could just respond OOC for a second...

I'm opposing the cabinet because it's ridiculous and unrealistic. Why would a major conservative party form a cabinet with two left wing parties? Why would the two largest parties work together, despite diametrically opposing world views? Why would the CRIP give itself only one seat in the cabinet, and give the smallest of the three parties 5?

The fact that such a cabinet exists detracts from the realism of the game so much that there's no point in taking anything else seriously. The cabinet must not mean anything if it can be formed by any parties that feel like it, regardless of their ideology. The same problem occured with the initial cabinet proposed. What's the point of this game, if not to try to move the national policy towards that of the party you're roleplaying? If the ideologies don't matter, than why even have them for our parties?

Date20:05:57, May 12, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, December 2050
MessageOOC: But thats just the point. It is realistic because if a party creates a cabinet no matter how its formed that party must then deal with the consequences and results. Don't mix IC and OOC together.

Date20:07:07, May 12, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, December 2050
MessageIf a party is rightfully elected to the executive position, its their right according to our constitution to form a cabinet anyway they want and their responsibility to deal with the consequences.

Date21:33:30, May 13, 2005 CET
FromCommunist Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Call for early elections, December 2050
MessageOOC: I've been looking around your nation again, and I have to say that whoever is the player behind the CRIP, he is either the most idiotic person to ever play this game or doing a very good job pretending to be the most idiotic person to ever play this game. If you care about realism, you really should boycott the CRIP...

Date22:47:07, May 13, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, December 2050
MessageBut thats just the point. In real life a government can choose to construct a cabinet any way it wants as long as its approved and thus has to deal with the consequences of their actions. Whats different here?

Date00:34:03, May 14, 2005 CET
FromCommunist Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Call for early elections, December 2050
MessageOOC: The difference is that in real life no one as moronic as the CRIP could win the elections. :)

Date07:58:03, May 14, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, December 2050
MessageOOC: You cannot speak for all voters. Secondly this is a game. In real life bills are much more tedious to write and are written by special offices of researches for legislators and take up many pages of legal language. No need for biased OOC/IC mixing in your opinion.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 13

no
     

Total Seats: 103

abstain
 

Total Seats: 11


Random fact: When forming a cabinet, try to include as few parties as possible, while still obtaining a majority of the seats.

Random quote: "The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door. That's the only difference." - Ralph Nader

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