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Bill: Request for Security Assistance from Egelion
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hacia Casa
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3566
Description[?]:
This motion formally requests the Coronada República de Egelion to send an elite team of security specialists, headed by the Duque de Nueva, Generalissimo Francisco, in order to assist the National Police Department and the Gongmangdo-Comares Security Task Force with the eradication of Kanpa, the Kyo crime syndicate which has been causing us so many problems. Fabricio Alvarado MP Leader of Hacia Casa |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 00:19:50, October 24, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Wiki Maintenance Group | To | Debating the Request for Security Assistance from Egelion |
Message | Mr.Speaker, Of course,the VBSM would always be willing to make their presence felt in Gongmangdo-Comares. Maximo Salazar 'Jefe de Partido |
Date | 03:02:37, October 24, 2013 CET | From | Partido Demócrata Hosiano de Egelion | To | Debating the Request for Security Assistance from Egelion |
Message | I will support this movement to the fullest and volunteer my services, as well as the services of several of our nation's elite Caillean greyshirts, whom personally protect my palace and officials of the Traditional Communion. Crime may only be met with an iron fist, one which I posses and will freely lend to the peoples of Eastern Egelia. Generalissimo Francisco de Nueva Duque de Nueva, Caudillo of the Egelian Peoples |
Date | 03:26:32, October 24, 2013 CET | From | Drania Cívica 🏴 시민당 | To | Debating the Request for Security Assistance from Egelion |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Our focus should first be on eliminating the terrorist organizations which have continually threatened our nation and have carried out numerous attacks across the Republic. Unification Now, the Patriots League, and the National Guard must all be eliminated as they are extremely violent terrorist organizations. It is these organizations which are the greatest threat to us right now and it should be our first focus to neutralize these organizations. Part of the reason Kanpa is now potentially committing some violent crimes is because they are reacting to the previously mentioned terrorist organizations. Of course Kanpa is a serious problem, but we must first focus on the organizations which are causing the most destruction and murder throughout Dranland. President Choi Yeon-ki |
Date | 03:29:29, October 24, 2013 CET | From | Drania Cívica 🏴 시민당 | To | Debating the Request for Security Assistance from Egelion |
Message | Mr. Speaker, My Government and the Gongmangdo Assembly reject the assistance of the National Police Department and the Gongmangdo-Comares Security Task Force. Our city has actively trained its own security forces for Gongmangdo and we are able to handle this situation ourselves. We especially reject the involvement of Egelian forces in our city and/or the involvement of the ethnofascists of the VBSM. You are not welcome in Gongmangdo. Mayor Sun Rikuto Gongmangdo |
Date | 04:49:49, October 24, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Wiki Maintenance Group | To | Debating the Request for Security Assistance from Egelion |
Message | Mr.Speaker, While the mayor's racist agenda against "ethnofascists" may play well in his speeches,he has no real right to stop the VBSM from using it's democratic rights and rallying Gongmangdo. Maximo Salazar Jefe de Partido |
Date | 05:30:53, October 24, 2013 CET | From | Drania Cívica 🏴 시민당 | To | Debating the Request for Security Assistance from Egelion |
Message | Mr. Speaker, There may be a right to rally, but it is within the full power of Gongmangdo law enforcement to shut down any rallies which our law enforcement have found to be a reasonable risk to security. The people of Gongmangdo want no part of this ethnic clashing and nonsense that is plaguing Dranland. We will not welcome any attempts by organizations, such as your own, to pollute our community and try to bring our people into this problem. All we want is to go on with our daily lives, undisturbed by this idiocy. Mayor Sun Rikuto Gongmangdo |
Date | 18:07:42, October 24, 2013 CET | From | Hacia Casa | To | Debating the Request for Security Assistance from Egelion |
Message | Mr. Speaker, On behalf of most Egelians, I wish to express my enormous gratitude to the Duque de Nueva for his offer to assist us with our security problems. This gratitude is matched only by my disappointment at the intransigent and self-defeating attitude of the Dranish establishment in deciding to reject his help. President Choi Yeon-ki either does not care about or does not grasp the enormous harm Kanpa is doing to Comares and other Kyo-dominated cities. We are confirmed in our impression that the KDF is soft on Kyo crime and Kyo terrorism. Mayor Sun Rikuto is acting as though he is in collusion with the Kyo crime syndicate that is effectively running his city. I call on the government to remove him from his position and impose direct rule on the city, since the city is obviously so over-run with Kyo corruption that it is incapable of governing itself. Fabricio Alvarado MP Leader of Hacia Casa |
Date | 18:34:47, October 24, 2013 CET | From | Drania Cívica 🏴 시민당 | To | Debating the Request for Security Assistance from Egelion |
Message | Mr. Speaker, It has been a long time since Kanpa presented a threat to society. They certainly haven't engaged in violent crimes for quite a long time. The four murders that have been carried out, most likely by Kanpa, are a great shift in what has been the norm for this criminal organization. This shift if their activities comes largely as a result of Dranianos and ultranationalists terrorism; especially that terrorism which has taken target against the Kyo. The first step in solving the Kanpa problem is to deal with the issue of terrorism. At that point we can at least place Kanpa back into its position as a white-collar crime organization in Dranland. Kanpa is not a new problem and Gongmangdo has always sought to eliminate Kanpa activity. It is not an easy task for such a secretive and extensive organization. What we have achieved is keeping the organization subdued in the frequency and intensity of their activities. This is at least progress. And this is the reality of this problem. The actions that are being proposed will not help resolve this difficult and complex issue. Mayor Sun Rikuto Gongmangdo |
Date | 18:47:14, October 24, 2013 CET | From | Hacia Casa | To | Debating the Request for Security Assistance from Egelion |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The fact that Unifiación Ahora, the Dranish National Guard and the Dranish Patriots League are a serious menace should not be an excuse for inaction in dealing with Kanpa. Mayor Sun Rikuto seems suspiciously reluctant to do anything about the Kyo terrorism, crime and corruption that is infesting his city. I must also ask the Mayor: if dealing with Kanpa is, as he says, "not an easy task" for his city authorities, then WHY is he refusing the offers of assistance from the National Police Department, the Gongmangdo-Comares Security Task Force and the Egelion security services? The Mayor is being offered the means to deal with Kanpa. Why will he not take advantage of them? Fabricio Alvarado MP Leader of Hacia Casa |
Date | 19:12:12, October 24, 2013 CET | From | Drania Cívica 🏴 시민당 | To | Debating the Request for Security Assistance from Egelion |
Message | Mr. Speaker, There is no inaction on Kanpa. The Government of Gongmangdo and our law enforcement is always working to address these issues. And the involvement of the NPD or these so-called security forces will not make Kanpa issue an easier task. Rather it will make it even more difficult. The best understanding of this issue comes from those of us in Gongmangdo and those of us who live in this society. Iglesia Mayor, Egelion, and whoever else from outside our community does not properly understand this issue. Their "solutions" will only worsen the problem, rather than resolve it. Mayor Sun Rikuto Gongmangdo |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||||
yes |
Total Seats: 89 | ||||||
no |
Total Seats: 246 | ||||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 7 |
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