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Bill: Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates
Details
Submitted by[?]: Internationale Kommunistische Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 3570
Description[?]:
| Reform of the system of energy generation, in order to assist in the construction of the Worker's State by the Vanguard Party. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on energy generation.
Old value:: Private and public power stations exist side-by-side.
Current: Small scale private electrical generation is permitted but most energy is generated by a government-owned company.
Proposed: All power stations are publicly owned.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on the nation's power grid.
Old value:: A single private company owns and maintains the national power grid.
Current: The national grid is fully owned by the state.
Proposed: The national grid is fully owned by the state.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:55:06, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund | To | Debating the Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates |
| Message | Herr Präsident, Would the honourable member care to elaborate beyond simplistic slogans? Surely the House agrees that we cannot base something as vital as our energy policy on the sloganising of individual members. der sehr ehrenwerter Thomas Takata MdR (Hilgar, HDV) Minister for Trade and Industry. |
| Date | 16:14:23, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Internationale Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates |
| Message | OOC: Wait a minute, trying to think of a cool alt name for Marxist-Leninism. |
| Date | 16:23:04, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund | To | Debating the Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates |
| Message | OOC: There is one already. Metzism-Kaminskism if I'm correct. |
| Date | 16:24:19, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund | To | Debating the Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates |
| Message | OOC: http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Illustrated_Catalogue_of_Political_Ideologies Metzism-Leonidism, apparently. |
| Date | 16:27:28, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Internationale Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates |
| Message | OOC: I was hoping you'd say that! :D |
| Date | 16:52:12, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Internationale Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates |
| Message | Herr Präsident, We would be happy to lend the honourable member a copy of Comrade Leonid's 'Vanguard und Revolution', in order to further their understanding of Metzism-Leonidism and Revolutionary Maximalism, but I assume the member would prefer something shorter, even if it will mean little to them. Due to the alienation and false consciousness experienced by the Proletariat in Capitalist States a spontaneous revolution is impossible, so a Vanguard Party like the IKP must liberate the Proletariat, and one method by which this can be achieved is via the parliamentary seizure of the means of Production. These Industries would then be run jointly by the IKP's Revolutionary Committee and by the Common Worker through the IKP's allies, the Revolutionäre Volksunion . |
| Date | 17:21:45, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Liberale Volkspartei | To | Debating the Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates |
| Message | Herr Präsident, at least the Hon. Member is honest enough to admit that the introduction of communism would lead to the institutionalization of theft and plunder, as his "parliamentary seizure" remark proves. I also wish to draw attention to the fact that the far-left regards parliamentary democracy, the core of our civic and political freedoms, only as a convenient substitute for a violent coup, which, in communist jargon, is euphemistically called "spontaneous revolution". This leaves no room for any conclusion other than that the IKP is a dangerous, totalitarian force that must be isolated through a political cordon sanitaire. Aurelia Lamann-Spitzer, MdR LVP-Hulstria Leader of the Opposition |
| Date | 17:41:55, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Internationale Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates |
| Message | Herr Präsident, We are rather confused as to why the Liberal's think that we would ever enter government with Counter Revolutionaries or Bourgeois Reformers. Sascha Meinhof Vorsitzende der provisorischen Revolutionären Komitees |
| Date | 21:18:40, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Hulstrianisch-Sozialistischen Partei | To | Debating the Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates |
| Message | Herr Präsident, Having heard the heated and passionate debate from the HDV and the IKP, we must state that belief in significant reform goes beyond petty-bickering and lexicongraphical squabbling. Nevertheless, the HSP agrees wholeheartedly with the nationalization of key utilitarian industries and pledge their support behind this bill for that reason. We do not agree with the pro-revolutionary standpoint of the IKP. Kawaii Michihiro HSP |
| Date | 22:00:31, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Liberale Volkspartei | To | Debating the Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates |
| Message | Herr Präsident, I can assure the Hon. Herr Meinhof that I do not believe that the communists would enter government alongside "Counter Revolutionaries or Bourgeois Reformers", and I am far from desiring anything in that regard. My point was that the IKP needs to be shunned by all democratic forces, not only when it comes to governance. This is absolutely necessary to uphold political hygiene and emphasize the sanctity of the principle of democracy. Aurelia Lamann-Spitzer, MdR LVP-Hulstria Leader of the Opposition |
| Date | 22:25:57, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Internationale Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the Reform des Energienetz, für den Bau des Kommunistischen Staates |
| Message | Herr Präsident, We entirely welcome having no association with the Liberals. Sascha Meinhof Vorsitzende der provisorischen Revolutionären Komitees |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 64 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 481 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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