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Bill: TBD
Details
Submitted by[?]: Fortschrittspartei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3570
Description[?]:
| No one shall be infringed because of their beliefs. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change State penalties for blasphemy
Old value:: Public blasphemy is considered a minor offense.
Current: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Proposed: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Proposed: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:39:54, October 31, 2013 CET | From |  Fortschrittspartei | To | Debating the TBD |
| Message | OOC:I forgot to change the title. The title shall be "Gläubigsfreiheit für Hulstria" |
| Date | 17:15:24, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Liberale Volkspartei | To | Debating the TBD |
| Message | Herr Präsident, although we are not in favor of abolishing the state religion - this particular article should be repealed if this bill passes - we will vote in favor of this on balance, as we are especially fond of article 3. Public resources should not be spent on prosecuting non-crimes that do not inflict harm to anyone. Eduard Riegelberg, MdR LVP-Kuratha Spokesman for Justice |
| Date | 21:20:58, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Hulstrianisch-Sozialistischen Partei | To | Debating the TBD |
| Message | The HSP agrees wholeheartedly with the position of the Liberale Volkspartei - we have no intent to abolish or restrict the beliefs of any person, but the state should not prioritize petty 'crimes' for trivial issues. Religion is a private affair. Willifrank Oberloskamp HSP |
| Date | 21:46:44, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Fortschrittspartei | To | Debating the TBD |
| Message | Herr Präsident Why does state promotes a religion? I can't get that. People's have religions, not states. Establishing a state religion is promotion of a particular religion over others. Which I find morally wrong. Ekaterina Beichner Leader of Fortschrittspartiet |
| Date | 21:54:46, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Liberale Volkspartei | To | Debating the TBD |
| Message | Herr Präsident, while I would in theory agree with the sentiments expressed by Frau Beichner, I must note that in the case of Hulstria and Gao-Soto things are quite different from other nations with a more secular tradition. Our national identity is built on Hosian values to a very substantial extent, and there can be no doubt that the state must uphold and preserve this national identity. The current state religion policy fulfills this aim while in no way restricting no person's freedom of and from religion. We thus consider it compatible with liberal thinking - unlike the blasphemy laws, which we want to scrap altogether. Eduard Riegelberg, MdR LVP-Kuratha Spokesman for Justice |
| Date | 23:51:32, October 31, 2013 CET | From | Hulstrianisch-Sozialistischen Partei | To | Debating the TBD |
| Message | OOC: Defeat by one vote? Awesome. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 272 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 273 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Any RP law granting extraordinary "emergency powers" or dictator-like powers to a government must be passed by at least a 2/3rds majority, but (like all RP laws) may always be overturned by a simple majority vote of the legislature. |
| Random quote: "If God made man they say Sam Colt made them equal." - Unknown |