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Bill: Giving powers to Schools
Details
Submitted by[?]: Freedom Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2160
Description[?]:
We have private schools, thus we should leave it up to them to decide if they want to hold teacher led prayers. Parents are free to decide if they want to send their kids there and can, if they want, not allow their children to be led in a prayer if that is there wish. Thus, we should devolve it to the schools. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: Teacher-led prayers are mandatory in schools.
Proposed: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:58:21, December 23, 2005 CET | From |   Freedom Party | To | Debating the Giving powers to Schools |
| Message | Split from th Religious Nature Act |
| Date | 10:52:23, December 23, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Giving powers to Schools |
| Message | Against, people who send their children to a secular school assume their children won't be forced to pray, hence this is a blatant violation of the freedom of religion, which includes the freedom not to exercise a religion. There is no reason why teacher-led prayers in secular schools should be allowed. The argument that parents have the right to choose to let their children pray makes no sense, because if that is indeed the case they send them to a religious school, not a secular school. This Act would even allow teachers to force children to pray a prayer of their own religion, thus denying the children of different religions the right to exercise their religion. |
| Date | 13:06:22, December 23, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Giving powers to Schools |
| Message | Aye. "Against, people who send their children to a secular school assume their children won't be forced to pray, hence this is a blatant violation of the freedom of religion, which includes the freedom not to exercise a religion. There is no reason why teacher-led prayers in secular schools should be allowed." In a secular school teachers will not choose to lead prayers. If they did, it would not be a "secular school". "The argument that parents have the right to choose to let their children pray makes no sense, because if that is indeed the case they send them to a religious school, not a secular school. This Act would even allow teachers to force children to pray a prayer of their own religion, thus denying the children of different religions the right to exercise their religion." This allows schools to choose between being secular and religious. The current law bans prayer in ALL schools, secular and religious. So in other words, you have completely misunderstood the issue. Now that you understand it, will you be voting with us in favour? |
| Date | 13:07:11, December 23, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Giving powers to Schools |
| Message | "The current law bans prayer in ALL schools, secular and religious." Sorry, this should read "The current law bans prayer in ALL schools, secular and religious unless they specifically declare themselves 'religious' which is unfair and unnecessary." |
| Date | 16:35:54, December 23, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Giving powers to Schools |
| Message | That is not unnecessary, the entire argument of the FP is based on schools declaring whether they are religious or not. ;-) |
| Date | 19:09:36, December 23, 2005 CET | From | Grand Republican Party | To | Debating the Giving powers to Schools |
| Message | The GRP will support this measure, as it does not force schools to have paryers, merely gives them the choice |
| Date | 21:54:48, December 23, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Giving powers to Schools |
| Message | This is about prayer in *public* schools, not religious schools. I can really not see why Freedom Coalition parties are voting for this. |
| Date | 22:28:28, December 23, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Giving powers to Schools |
| Message | This would allow religious teachers to FORCE children to pray in a SECULAR school at their sole discretion, without the parents being given prior notification thereof! A slap in the face of the freedom of religion! |
| Date | 22:28:52, December 23, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Giving powers to Schools |
| Message | If parents send their children to a SECULAR school, they assume their child won't be forced to pray. ;-) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 351 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 248 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Once approved, players should copy Cultural Protocols into a bill in the debate section of their nation page, under the title of "OOC: Cultural Protocols". This bill should include links to the passed Cultural Protocol bill and the Moderation approval. |
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