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Bill: Just Say NO to Dundorf
Details
Submitted by[?]: Independent Capitalist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2162
Description[?]:
| Dundorf, a landlocked country, is planning to invade Deltaria. Why? Because the people democratically chose a government that puts Dundorf's old allies, the oligarchy, out of power. Help the spread of democracy by preventing Dundorf from reaching Deltaria. This bill, if passed, denies the government and military of Dundorf access to Alorian ports, airspace, and land. Onward, democracy! Continue in Aloria, Deltaria and all of Terra! Kirlawa is doing the same thing and we encourage other Artanian Nations to follow... ARTICLE I Upon passing, the Democratic Republic of Dundorf's government and military shall have no access to Alorian ports, airspace and land until another resolution strikes this one down or if Dundorf agrees to not attack Deltaria. ARTICLE II All allies of Dundorf, known as the Axis, shall also have no access to Alorian ports, airspace and land. The allies include, but are not limited to, the Exalted Empire of Gaduridos, the Kingdom of Alduria, and the Kanjoran Empire. ARTICLE III Aloria will encourage similar resolutions in other countries and Dundorf, being landlocked, will be trapped in Artania and thus be unable to attack the free and democratic nation of Deltaria. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:33:54, December 26, 2005 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | Exibit A: Deltarian Democracy - http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewnation.php?nationid=36 Exibit B: Dundorf Plans Attacks - http://80.237.164.51/particracy/wiki/index.php/Terra_War_I#Attacks_on_Deltaria Exibit C: Kirlawa to Deny Dundorf - http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=40254 |
| Date | 19:58:34, December 26, 2005 CET | From |  Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | We agree. |
| Date | 23:35:08, December 26, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | This is ridiculous. We demand neutrality in this conflict. |
| Date | 23:41:47, December 26, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | The ACPA demands an explanation for the ICP lies concerning this most important matter of violent conflict. The ICP claims that the Dundorf Democratic Republic (DDR) wishes to levy war upon the Dynastic Oligarchy of Deltartia (DOD) when in TRUTH, the DDR and DOD are both members of the Axis and both attempting to bring bloodshed to the shores of Kalistan and Selucia. |
| Date | 23:53:15, December 26, 2005 CET | From | Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | The DOD is no longer a member of the Axis, they have renonced that title. Look at the treaties they recently withdrew theirselves from. The evil parties are no longer in the majority, so the DOD is no longer in the Axis. |
| Date | 23:55:43, December 26, 2005 CET | From | Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | Did you even LOOK at the WIki page? "Attacks on Deltaria As of now, the Axis nations have begun preparations to attack Deltaria and restore the old religious leadership. No fighting has begun, but Dundorf and its allies have vowed to attack. " It just happens they are still in the Axis as no-one has changed it. |
| Date | 02:18:08, December 27, 2005 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | In reality, Deltaria was a rogue nation and a threat to all of Terra. Now the Coalition of Peace has the majority there and they are making reforms. However, Dundorf is trying to INVADE Deltaria and make it a threat again. This is insane, all I'm asking is to keep Dundorf landlocked so that they cannot attack Deltaria through us. If Deltaria is restored to the old Dynastic Oligarchy, no one is safe! |
| Date | 02:32:30, December 27, 2005 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | MP, if Dundorf defeats Deltaria than the Antipope Jana will remain in power. Do you, as a Catholic Party, want Dundorf to march through *our* territory and back up a "Catholic" Church that has the nerve to put a FEMALE as "pope"? This isn't asking for war, this is asking to make sure Dundorf, a landlocked country, doesn't pass through us to start a war to restore a warmongering government that only its allies liked. This bill denies them passage through us (they're landlocked and share a border with us) and the other bill defends us in case they want to forcefully cut through us. |
| Date | 02:39:58, December 27, 2005 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | ACPA, the reason I gave links is so you could look at things. For instance, Deltaria in their recent elections became liberal due to the Coalition of Peace winning. We're still going to stay neutral, the point is to make sure Dundorf doesn't try to pass through us to attack the new freedom-loving Deltarians. Look at the map, Dundorf is landlocked and thus has to pass through *someone*. |
| Date | 04:53:26, December 27, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | The ACPA denounces the ICP's misogyny, though we must admit that our research was a bit shoddy. The people who did the research have been sacked. OOC: I was dashing out the door when I saw this. I suppose it would have been best if I'd kept my mouth shut, eh? |
| Date | 05:10:32, December 27, 2005 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | OOC: I was dashing out the door when I wrote things. I suppose I should have had more explainations. |
| Date | 05:42:08, December 27, 2005 CET | From | Memorare Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | We want nothing to do with this sinful exterprise lead by the ICP . |
| Date | 05:47:50, December 27, 2005 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Just Say NO to Dundorf |
| Message | By doing nothing, that means that Dundorf can pass through our territory on their way to attack and reestablish the Oligarchy in Deltaria. I hate to say it, MP, but that Oligarchy had their own antipope. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 271 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 153 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 176 |
| Random fact: For more information on Particracy's former colonial nations, check out http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6640 |
| Random quote: "Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon so long as there is no answer to it gives claws to the weak." - George Orwell |