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Bill: Weapon bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Grand Nationalist Fraction
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 3632
Description[?]:
Colleagues, the current legislation concerning weapon ownership could still be improved. For the safety of our population, we feel it would be much better to limit the permittance of weaponry. These regulations only apply in peacetime. We suggest the following: 1. All weapons are allowed for citizens to own; 2. Possession of any weapon by citizens in public buildings is prohibited; 3. All weapons, cataloged as military weapon, shall not be carried in public, unless: - during transport towards or from a shooting range or exercise facility; - during transport towards or from a gunstore or maintenance facility; - during transport towards or from hunting grounds; - during transport for purposes ordered by the government (for example for investigation); - during an activity which is not prohibited by law (for example hunting, shooting range,...); When our nation is at war, in a war regime or when the Cabinet finds it appropriate (more than 50% of votes) these regulations will be cancelled untill further notice. Willem Ekelers Minister of Internal Affairs |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Current: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Proposed: Citizens may own any type of weapons, but certain types are restricted to designated places.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 17:52:14, March 03, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Weapon bill |
Message | Mr. Speaker, In the event of an invasion or coup d'État, we fear that the people will not be able to defend themselves. In the case of a coup, the military will have its own goals for power and ignore the will of the people. In the case of an invasion, it is best that the people are armed to be able to defend themselves instead of relying entirely upon the military. The people should be able to help in defending themselves instead of being a burden. -- Motya Bogomolov, NRG Spokesman on Defence |
Date | 06:55:45, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Weapon bill |
Message | Mister Bogomolov, we could (and should) add that these regulations only apply in peacetime. Eventually we could change the first point. Willem Ekelers |
Date | 07:05:38, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Weapon bill |
Message | Mr. Speaker, It doesn't matter. When wartime hits, we won't be ready. We should wait until chaos begins before we try to arm the citizens? There will be no time to arm them, and they will be vulnerable. If the reserves pull together and launch a coup right now, with the paramilitaries divided on whose side to take, the government will be powerless. How will we distribute the guns? When the citizens have the guns, hoping that these are guns that can match the military-grade guns used by their potential oppressors, how will they know how to use them properly? We can't wait until the problem starts before we arm them. By the time something starts, it will be even more difficult to arm them or have them ready to defend themselves. -- Motya Bogomolov, NRG Spokesman on Defence |
Date | 07:23:03, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Weapon bill |
Message | Mr. Speaker, what I meant was 1; to allow the citizens to own any kind of weapons. and 2; change 'lethal weapons' in (3.) into 'military weapons'. Doing so, we allow our citizens to own the weapons, and to practice with them. In wartime or in crisis, regulations change. We could add that addendum. Willem Ekelers |
Date | 07:30:36, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Weapon bill |
Message | Mr. Speaker, In that case, we can come to an agreement on this bill. -- Motya Bogomolov, NRG Spokesman on Defence |
Date | 16:48:01, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Weapon bill |
Message | Colleagues, we have made some changes to this proposition. Willem Ekelers |
Date | 19:20:10, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Weapon bill |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We believe that it would be better to change the proposal in Article 1 to say "Citizens may own any type of weapons, but certain types are restricted to designated places." -- Tony Jekkyl, NRG Spokesman on Internal Affairs |
Date | 20:26:14, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Weapon bill |
Message | Mister Jekkyl, that is noted. What about article 2 then? Does that stay. Guess with your proposition, you are referring to military weapons? Willem Ekelers |
Date | 23:33:21, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Weapon bill |
Message | OOC: there is only 1 article in the bill. I'm talking about the actual "Article 1" - not the stuff you typed. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 599 | ||||
no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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