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Bill: Ratification of the Allied Nations
Details
Submitted by[?]: Pansexual Peace Party -- FNORD
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2164
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the Allied Nations. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Allied Nations.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:18:46, December 27, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Patriots' League | To | Debating the Ratification of the Allied Nations |
| Message | While I strongly support Article 3 and to a lesser extent Article 1; Article 2 sounds dangerously libertarian and open to interpretation. |
| Date | 11:34:01, December 27, 2005 CET | From | Chinkopodian Economic Democrats | To | Debating the Ratification of the Allied Nations |
| Message | Article Two basically says that all states have the right to remain sovereign and that if any nation attempts to conquer them by force, we will intervene....it's very similar to both Article I and Article III. |
| Date | 20:11:42, December 27, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party/Church of Kalistan | To | Debating the Ratification of the Allied Nations |
| Message | There is nothing wrong with Imperialism, the Axis Powers are not Imperialists, they are fascists. If you call Nazi Germany and "Imperialistic" nation, then you are sorrily mistaken. I support what this treaty stands for, just not how they worded it. Thus, even though it will not matter, I shall vote no. |
| Date | 04:25:22, December 28, 2005 CET | From | Pansexual Peace Party -- FNORD | To | Debating the Ratification of the Allied Nations |
| Message | Dude, we were just attacked by the Axis. Why the hell would we join them? |
| Date | 02:17:39, December 29, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Patriots' League | To | Debating the Ratification of the Allied Nations |
| Message | Clause 2 clearly applies to individuals not nations; when it refers to freedom to an own destiny. And every party here denies the citizens come freedoms. Our nations will be instantly violation the treaty. |
| Date | 08:27:40, December 29, 2005 CET | From | Pansexual Peace Party -- FNORD | To | Debating the Ratification of the Allied Nations |
| Message | I disagree. In my interpretation, clause 2 applies to nations. |
| Date | 18:41:55, December 29, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Ratification of the Allied Nations |
| Message | As the drafter of this treaty, I feel I could offer some insight here. Clause two does NOT apply to individual parties. Such a move would be a grotesque offence to the autonomy of individual parties, and would rightly be regarded as intollerable by any thinking nation. Indeed, the article explicitly states that nations should be allowed 'to determine their own economic, social and cultural destiny'. In other words, parties can do what they like outside of imperialism. Finally, the article specifically refers to the concept of nationhood, stating '[t]herefore, all members will intervene on the world stage when a nations sovereignty is threatened.' I hope this has cleared up some confusions. |
| Date | 06:12:01, December 31, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party/Church of Kalistan | To | Debating the Ratification of the Allied Nations |
| Message | HELLO??? IMPERIAL Conservative Party here... |
| Date | 07:10:20, December 31, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Patriots' League | To | Debating the Ratification of the Allied Nations |
| Message | It doesn't say nations; it says 'the people'. This treaty is very poorly worded; regardless of intention. I stand by my reading of Article 2. |
| Date | 22:27:25, December 31, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Ratification of the Allied Nations |
| Message | *cough* '[t]herefore, all members will intervene on the world stage when a NATIONS sovereignty is threatened.' |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 74 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 80 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 43 |
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