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Bill: Constitutional Reforms
Details
Submitted by[?]: Front Canrillaise
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 3653
Description[?]:
| Restoring the Emperor of Canrille and deposing the usurper. Articles: 1. Henceforth, Rildanor will be called as the "Empire de la Canrille". 2. The usurper known as "Jean II" shall be exiled to a place of his choosing. 3. Léopold of the House of Orléans-Vasser shall be crowned as Léopold IV, Emperor of Canrille and Noumonde, King of the Rildanorians, King of Kanjor and La Tondelle. 4. All titles of nobility granted by the usurper and his ancestors are null and void. 5. All previous titles and lands granted by the House of Orléans-Vasser are to be examined and returned as appropriate. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Jean II, Roi des Rildanoriennes et Président de l'Assemblée nationale des Rildanoriennes, représentée par le Président du gouvernement et Premier Ministre
Current: Chef de l'État Rildanorien (Head of the Rildanorian State)
Proposed: Léopold IV, l'Empereur du Canrille and de la Noumonde, Roi des Rildanoriennes, Roi du Kanjor et La Tondelle, représentée par le Président du gouvernement et Premier Ministre
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The official title of the legislative assembly.
Old value:: Assemblée nationale des Rildanoriennes
Current: Conseil de l'État Rildanorien (Council of the Rildanorian State)
Proposed: Sénat
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The length of a legislative and executive term, in months. Should be between 24 and 72.
Old value:: 36
Current: 72
Proposed: 72
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:31:01, April 17, 2014 CET | From | Imperial Party of Lourenne | To | Debating the Constitutional Reforms |
| Message | Usurper? His Majesty King Jean and his ancestors have reigned for two centuries, without interval. Rildanor has been stable, free and prosperous through that time. But now we see the throne claimed by a man who has never set foot in the country he claims a right to rule. The Demitrei will return. As we have always done. Next year in Labonne. |
| Date | 23:21:18, April 17, 2014 CET | From |  Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the Constitutional Reforms |
| Message | Why, pray tell, does a foreign party with no seats in a foreign legislature interfering in the affairs of a sovereign nation? Does the Parti National not have its own voice with which to speak, or is it a mere puppet of that Lourennais party. (OOC: I certainly hope it is not some multi account...) |
| Date | 23:31:50, April 17, 2014 CET | From | Imperial Party of Lourenne | To | Debating the Constitutional Reforms |
| Message | We are merely opting to voice our support for our cousins and allies in Rildanor. |
| Date | 23:36:10, April 17, 2014 CET | From | Imperial Party of Lourenne | To | Debating the Constitutional Reforms |
| Message | OOC: For what it's worth, I can vouch that the PN user is a different user. |
| Date | 01:31:28, April 18, 2014 CET | From | Parti Nationaliste 🌞 | To | Debating the Constitutional Reforms |
| Message | OOC: I am a different user, eh. The PN will always argue for the independency of Rildanor, no matter what. We thank our Demitrean allies and also our foreign allies for giving support to the Demitrean cause and also Rildanor's independency from the imperialism of the Canrillists of which the IML leader has declared that Canrille is nonexistent. |
| Date | 01:42:30, April 18, 2014 CET | From | Parti Nationaliste 🌞 | To | Debating the Constitutional Reforms |
| Message | Mr. Interim Speaker, Point of Order, Mr. Speaker. The PN would like to stress that the IML leadership will only recognize the title of the King. We request the administration party to remove Leopold of his title of being King of Kanjor, of which he was deposed by popular uprising. Also, remove his title of being an emperor of a nonexistent empire! The PN would also like to stress that the House of Demetrius is still legitimate. |
| Date | 04:52:46, April 18, 2014 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the Constitutional Reforms |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The decision to discourage the use of name Canrille has been arbitrarily decided by some IML leader unilaterally many years ago. It carries little legitimacy and the IML is merely a symbolic gathering and does not much have authority on most things. However, we continue to respect the IML for its ability to provide a forum for monarchist issues. We would also like to clarify, Mr. Speaker, that the IML objects to the use of the term "Emperor of Canrille" and not King of Kanjor, so we are unsure how the humbled and defeated PN came to its conclusion of removing the Emperor Kanjorien title. Finally, the House of Demetrius no longer holds legitimacy in Canrille. Members of this family may return to their Lourennais backwater. |
| Date | 06:09:30, April 18, 2014 CET | From | Parti Nationaliste 🌞 | To | Debating the Constitutional Reforms |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I would like to point out that we are in Rildanor as there is no such thing as Canrille because these foreign aristocrats were just ousted from Kanjor. The IML also recognizes the House of Demetrius as a monarchist dynasty in Rildanor. Hence, the House of Orleans-Vasser can be ousted anytime as the people wish. OOC: The Orleans-Vasser as the RL Legitimists and the Demitreans the Bonapartists The PN recognizes the people's will in Kanjor that's why we are objecting to the foreigner Leopold the emperor of nonexistent Canrille of using his title as the King of Kanjor. The PN had talks with the Republic of Kanjor's government to permit Jean II (Jean de Dimitri) to render his asylum until his restoration to power here in Rildanor. |
| Date | 10:11:27, April 18, 2014 CET | From |  Parti Communiste du Kanjor | To | Debating the Constitutional Reforms |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I know we are a party of a different country, but when I see which bill you want to vote, I'm strongly opposed against that bill. Kanjor is a republic, without a king! So you can't name Léopold IV le roi du Kanjor! You're simply laughing at Kanjor, because you don't want to accept the sovereignity of our beautiful country! When you don't want to change this, our government will take strong actions!!! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes |
Total Seats: 61 | |
| no |
Total Seats: 14 | |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Jelbic = "Group of cultures with an overall Central Asian/Eurasian steppe theme, using a fictional language developed specifically for Particracy". |
| Random quote: "We must face the fact that the preservation of individual freedom is incompatible with a full satisfaction of our views of distributive justice." - Friedrich August von Hayek |