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Bill: Weapons Ban Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nationalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2198
Description[?]:
| Any arguement for citizens to bear arms comes form Blinded Revoltionaries, Groups scared of what will become of them with there weapons to silence there critics. A country found on Democracy and the will of the People, not the bullet and the Bayonet, does not need Guns as a fundermental Right. This issue shall never be abandoned by the Nationalist, what is more important to every single Rutania then to Live? And Live free? And if any other arguement wasnt enough, i needed remind the members of the Federal Parliment that Guns Kill People! Thats what they were designed for. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Current: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Proposed: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Current: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Proposed: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:23:35, December 28, 2005 CET | From |  Freedom Party | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | Hmm.... no. We should allow adults to own guns to protect themselves, the government should not have a monopoly on force |
| Date | 12:46:24, December 28, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | Against, I be. |
| Date | 19:29:52, December 28, 2005 CET | From | Grand Republican Party | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | The GRP may see no sense in owning guns, but will never become so fascist and opressive to ban them. |
| Date | 23:55:34, December 28, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | The Hammer of the "Democratic" Leader, "fascist" and "opressive". Because as we all know Opression never comes at the barrel of a Gun. and Fascist are always inclined sit down and talk about things. Peoples of Rutania deserve to be SAFE. not safe when i have a loaded Springfield under the bed. "We should allow adults to own guns to protect themselves" FP Wow..... so caring for the Greater Population. Im sure the Street Gang with the RPG really need protecting. or the drug addict holding up a Corner Store with a loaded Rifle. And yes, of cource the simple way to fix things would be that EVERYONE OWNS A GUN. But they dont, some a have brains a use them to think, to live on, which is made a hell of a lot harder when a rebel Dundolfian comes into you shop with a Hand Gun demanding last weeks profit. Im sure they will understand at the end of the day the reason why that man deserves a Gun, because to say other wise would be against his/her Freedom....... (OOC: This isnt a The United States...... i dont think the Free people of Rutania have decided to jot down some words they hold self evident. We didnt fight a war. ) |
| Date | 21:07:30, December 29, 2005 CET | From | Grand Republican Party | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | Aside from your political rhetoric...which makes absolutely no sense, the GRP cannot see any sense, or substance in your argument. Your same argument, that Rutanians do not need weapons, could be used against anything other than oxygen, and the need for bread and water. Weapons may not be seential, but it would be oppression to try and stop Rutaniansd owning them alltogether. They may not need them, but they want them, and as such the GRP will not support such a fascist piece of legislature that seeks to oppress so many people. |
| Date | 01:39:47, December 30, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | oppress! How does one oppress the Population by taken there deadly weapon away? And This bill doesnt Ban all weapons. most weapons, such as regulation Hand Guns and Rifles would be still legal just after license conditions. Auto-matic Weapons would be banned. high Powered weapons would be band. If a Man needs a license to drive a Car, surely he'd need one to own a gun. |
| Date | 17:21:53, January 01, 2006 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | We are in favour of this bill, every citizen has the right to life, liberty and SECURITY of person. Security means that there are certain restrictions on who can own lethal weaponry, for instance, people with a history of dangerous criminality or mental illness should not be able to own lethal weaponry, that is a prerequisite for security of person. We are willing to compromise by not allowing persons with a history of dangerous criminal or mental illness to own guns. |
| Date | 14:52:57, January 02, 2006 CET | From | Libertarian Alcoholic Party II | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | "Because as we all know Opression never comes at the barrel of a Gun. and Fascist are always inclined sit down and talk about things." I'm pretty surprised that the RFP and RSDP would support a bill which uses this sort of rhetoric. |
| Date | 17:25:56, January 02, 2006 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | The rhetoric doesn't matter, the proposals do. ;-) |
| Date | 16:58:17, January 03, 2006 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | The rhetoric and the proposals go hand-in-hand. |
| Date | 22:00:43, January 03, 2006 CET | From | Libertarian Alcoholic Party II | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | His justification for gun-banning seems to involve agreeing with him that Fascists are peaceful and talkative. You really gonna accept that? |
| Date | 02:25:23, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | Well, Im sorry it came to that but im really sick of the GRP Yelling Fascist every time i propose a BIll. |
| Date | 12:42:31, March 11, 2006 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Weapons Ban Act |
| Message | Forcing this to vote for archive purposes |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 480 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 101 |
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