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Bill: Land Mine Act 3660
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Alorian Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3660
Description[?]:
| We believe the army is better equipped to make this descion instead those in the capitol. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The use of land mines is allowed but restricted.
Current: The Government leaves this to the army to decide upon.
Proposed: The Government leaves this to the army to decide upon.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:37:57, May 02, 2014 CET | From | People's Democratic Party | To | Debating the Land Mine Act 3660 |
| Message | The PDP feels that the army is not independent of the government or the capitol. The army is a part of the state and is necessarily required to act in accordance to the policies of the government of the day as elected by the people. Usually that involves national defence as that is a fairly common policy, and at the behest of governments it could be to provide peacekeeping operations to preserve stability in our region. The parliament should reserve the right to place whatever limitations or otherwise on the army. This is because the army is acting according to the elected legislator's strategy AND because ultimately the government is responsible for the army's conduct as the army is an instrument of the state. |
| Date | 19:17:57, May 02, 2014 CET | From | Wildrose Alliance | To | Debating the Land Mine Act 3660 |
| Message | We like the policy as it stands. It is of grave concern to us that the government would lose control over the use of land mines, especially since this control protects the citizens of war-torn nations and maintains a balance of power between the government and the army. |
| Date | 19:30:41, May 02, 2014 CET | From | Labor Party | To | Debating the Land Mine Act 3660 |
| Message | Labor has no formal position on this issue and is up for argument of one or the other. |
| Date | 19:36:04, May 02, 2014 CET | From | Wildrose Alliance | To | Debating the Land Mine Act 3660 |
| Message | I'll note that in countries where land mines have been used, especially by the US Government, most casualties are innocent civilians not only in but also after war. That is there has been an abuse of mines in the past. While we shouldn't necessarily eliminate their use, we should have some oversight regarding how often they are used and whether they are really effective and/or necessary. We urge you to oppose. |
| Date | 03:05:56, May 03, 2014 CET | From | United Alorian Party | To | Debating the Land Mine Act 3660 |
| Message | We believe that army is still better equipped to decide this issue because they are or have been in combat, know the situation better then lawmakers on this issue. The elected lawmakers do not know war stratgeys, unless they were in military. On this issue the government should let the army make the descsion themaelf, they are more informed on it, and will know better where to use them, when, how and etc not a buearcract. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 139 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 105 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 31 |
| Random fact: "Kubrk" is a Jelbic word that has the colloquial meaning "old man" or "geezer". |
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