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Bill: Ratification of the Allied Nations

Details

Submitted by[?]: Liberal-Progressive Union

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 2165

Description[?]:

This bill asks for the ratification of the Allied Nations. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date04:36:41, December 30, 2005 CET
From Liberal-Progressive Union
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageI recommend the ratification of this treaty, as Darnussia is a friendly border nation of Hobrazia and closer ties between Hobrazia and Darnussia can be good for both nations.

Any thoughts on this?

Date13:48:59, December 30, 2005 CET
From National Imperial Hobrazian Front
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageWe cannot agree. If we want to form a cooperative front against the Axis powers, then we must put more effort into the TDE.

Date22:28:02, December 30, 2005 CET
From Liberal-Progressive Union
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageThat's true, but an alliance with Darnussia does not effect the TDE. If Darnussia is ever attacked we shouldn't sit by and watch, the safety of Hobrazia goes hand and hand with that of Darnussia.

Date22:55:44, December 30, 2005 CET
From National Imperial Hobrazian Front
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageIt would be cool to be the Allies vs. the Axis. I guess we'll support.

Date03:55:54, December 31, 2005 CET
From National Imperial Hobrazian Front
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageMy only concern is that this may conflict with the TDE. What if one of the Entente nations attacked an Allied state? Too many multilateral alliances could make for some very complicated situations.

Date03:57:20, January 01, 2006 CET
From Liberal-Progressive Union
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageIt seems that the same nations who ratified the TDE are also the nations who may ratify the Allied Nations. This treaty is less binding then the TDE and is strictly defensive, and it will bring us into a defensive alliance with Darnussia which is what we should be working for. It may be beneficial to have a seperate alliance's, as Darnussia will not be obligated to involve itself in any of the military operations of the TDE nations, such as a pre-emptive strike against territorial ambitious nations......

Date22:46:14, January 01, 2006 CET
From National Imperial Hobrazian Front
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageNo for now. We will reconsider our vote later when more nations have joined the Allies.

Date22:04:20, January 03, 2006 CET
From Liberal-Progressive Union
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageObstructionist, I mean isolationist...I fail to understand the reasons for opposing this, maybe because no reasons were stated by 2 of the naysayer parties.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 208

no
   

Total Seats: 142

abstain
  

Total Seats: 50


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