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Bill: Extension of individual rights on cultural and religious matters.
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3694
Description[?]:
| Our nation must reconsider it's primitive attitude towards minority religious groups, who are currently suffering terrible persecution at the hands of the state. Indeed, the fanatical, fundamentalist and in most cases outright xenophobic nature of our current laws regarding religious minorities are negatively impacting, not only our international reputation, but also our national security by making us the prime target of various "resistance cells" and "liberation fronts". |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change State penalties for blasphemy
Old value:: Both private and public blasphemy are considered grave offenses, and are heavily prosecuted.
Current: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Proposed: Public blasphemy is considered a criminal offense.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning granting citizenship.
Old value:: Citizenship is granted based on race/religion/gender.
Current: Citizenship is granted to all nationals.
Proposed: Citizenship is gained by passing a qualifying exam.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: Foreign missionaries are not permitted to enter the nation.
Current: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Proposed: The government determines which missionaries are permitted to visit on a person by person basis.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and puts them in integration centers when discovered.
Current: The government ignores illegal aliens.
Proposed: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but expels them from the country when discovered.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state appoints all heads and other ministers of all religions.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state appoints the head and ministers of the state religion, but does not intervene otherwise.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Government's policy towards the powers of the police.
Old value:: The police may arrest citizens for any reason.
Current: The police may arrest crime suspects.
Proposed: The police may arrest crime suspects.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Police searches.
Old value:: The police can search a person or their property without restrictions.
Current: The police cannot search a person or their property without their consent unless the police have obtained a warrant from a court or have reasonable grounds to suspect that a crime was committed.
Proposed: The police cannot search a person or their property without their consent unless the police have obtained a warrant from a court or in cases of imminent danger.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: All schools are required to be religious in nature.
Current: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Proposed: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change Travel by foreigners to the nation.
Old value:: The nation imposes strict border control on visitors, with intensive security checks, to maintain law and order.
Current: The nation imposes no border controls on visitors.
Proposed: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:52:26, July 09, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Extension of individual rights on cultural and religious matters. |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, there is only one recognised religion in Lodamun, and that is Lodamese Nationalism. Since membership is mandatory, there are no minority religious groups. Dimitri Dewitte Incumbent President of Lodamun |
| Date | 15:22:45, July 09, 2014 CET | From | People's party | To | Debating the Extension of individual rights on cultural and religious matters. |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, With all due respect, it is asinine to believe that there are no minority religious groups in Lodamun. The only things our primitive laws on cultural and religious matters have achieved were to cause fear and resentment amongst the minority religious groups that were forced into hiding, make us the prime target of various terrorist cells overnight, and give the state and it's agents excuses for some of the most extreme civil rights violations ever seen outside of a totalitarian regime. In addition to the above, it is absurd to call our once great nation a "Democracy" whilst the state is exerting such quasi-totalitarian levels of control over the lives of citizens. Thomas Behr Head of the People's Party |
| Date | 15:39:06, July 09, 2014 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Extension of individual rights on cultural and religious matters. |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I can't believe that someone would dare to call the President's comments "asinine" and expect to survive when he walks out of this chamber, especially considering that he is not a member of this chamber. Lodamese Nationalism has been Lodamun's mandatory religion for most of the past 200 years. Persons of other religions were purged, being murdered or sent into exile. Those dark times are over. Lodamese Nationalism was encouraged in schools, so children in the past many generations grew up as Lodamese Nationalists, unless they found illegal literature somewhere. Democracy and Totalitarianism are not mutually-exclusive. Lodamun is still democratic. The people have repeatedly elected representatives who arein favour of the mandatory religion, and who favour strict internal affairs laws. The religion is also driven by the people. The people are the religion. The main tenet of the religion is the rejection of any deities and the acceptance of the idea that citizens of Lodamun, including immigrants, are divine. The religon's position on social issues is determined by the people. -- Eric Fertig, GNRG Spokesman on Internal Affairs |
| Date | 16:57:14, July 09, 2014 CET | From | People's party | To | Debating the Extension of individual rights on cultural and religious matters. |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I called the president's comments what they are, as i'm not one to mince my words. If i must die for exerting my natural human right to free expression, then so be it, but i warn you that the opposition, both international and domestic, will not allow you to continue with your insidious reign of terror for much longer. Long live freedom! Death to nationalism! Thomas Behr Head of the People's Party |
| Date | 17:29:45, July 09, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Extension of individual rights on cultural and religious matters. |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we understand it must be difficult for some people to understand our stance towards our religion. We have known Nationalism as a religion for a very long time now. My parents, as their parents, have only known Nationalism as a state religion. To us, nationals, it is a way of life. We do not speach hatred, we do not discriminate. We even accepted Hosians into our country, while Hosian is a religion as well. We just don't accept that religion in our nation, just because Hosianism is a discriminating religion. Yevgueni Dewitte President of Lodamun |
| Date | 17:30:29, July 09, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Extension of individual rights on cultural and religious matters. |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This "reign of terror" has been around for centuries, and our international opposition has been unable to stop it. Our local opposition has never maintained popularity for long. The President determines what is right or wrong. His word is law. -- Eric Fertig, GNRG Spokesman on Internal Affairs |
| Date | 17:31:52, July 09, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Extension of individual rights on cultural and religious matters. |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We respect Hosians so much that we made them our national animal. -- Henry Huddleson, GNRG Spokesman on Justice |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 0 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 599 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Don't put "the" as the first word in your party name, because when parties are referred to in news reports, their names are preceded with "the", e.g. the [Socialist Party] has lost. |
| Random quote: "To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is barbarity." - Maximilien Robespierre |