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Bill: Party Positions
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kirlawa Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3694
Description[?]:
| I am trying to get a feel on what party is what position, please correct me if I'm wrong. Vote yes or if this is correct, no if it's not and tell me your position. KPJP: Left-Wing KNFA: Centre-Left RRC: Centre-Right GPK: Right-Wing KPP:,Right-Wing VRP: Right-Wing |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:47:16, July 11, 2014 CET | From | Vanguard for Virtue & Righteousness | To | Debating the Party Positions |
| Message | I was recently thinking about this, fun. I tended to think KPJP was more "centrist" as they combined elements of leftism and rightism policy wise. Though I think they prefer to emphasize their leftward part aesthetically, if you think about it their probably the most "conservative" party in the sense that they often use "it's always been this way" as an argument and oppose change and favor the status quo that has dominated kirlawa in the past. This conservative bent is why I wouldn't call them "radical centre". They also have a distinct totalitarian bent, I.e they favor regulation in nearly all aspects of life and have a tendency to prefer security over liberty. Though they are not blatantly authoritarian, their certainly one of the more prone towards it. I tended to think KNFA tended more to the left then KPJP, though they are pretty similar. But enough of them, they can speak for themselves. As far as VRP we self-identify as "far right", generally asumed we were overall the farthest right leaning party in kirlawa. |
| Date | 02:03:14, July 11, 2014 CET | From | Vanguard for Virtue & Righteousness | To | Debating the Party Positions |
| Message | This of course assumes a single line political spectrum, a 2d spectrum was used a long time ago in kirlawa (using the political compass test, which I don't like much honestly). Since I know KPJP likes it well enough (as They have their score in their description) i'll give my results; 4.50, 4.0. http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=209186 |
| Date | 02:13:04, July 11, 2014 CET | From | Vanguard for Virtue & Righteousness | To | Debating the Party Positions |
| Message | "Communist party" and it's myriad forms was probably the most leftward party overall but they ceased existing sooo..... |
| Date | 02:30:00, July 11, 2014 CET | From | Kirlawa Liberal Party | To | Debating the Party Positions |
| Message | Yes bit I think that since the, KPJP is more authoritarian yes but I like to refer to the ideology Capitalist-Libertarian Right and Regulator-Authoritarian Left, I see that the KNFA is more right when it comes to economic policies and with us on the opinion of unions. Which is why is said centre-right. The KPJP is for extreme regulation and quite restrictive in civil liberties making them a left party more than the KNFA. The RRC is more restrictive when it comes to civil liberties but tend to be quite conservative & capitalist on economic polices making them centre-right. The GPK is very libertarian and capitalist in both economics and civil liberties, making them right. You are very capitalist and libertarian as well making you right. I am also very capitalist and libertarian, my party name used to the the "Kirlawa Capitalist Alliance" yes it is me if anyone was wondering not a new party, making me right as well. |
| Date | 02:34:50, July 11, 2014 CET | From | Kirlawa Liberal Party | To | Debating the Party Positions |
| Message | I took that position test as well a little while back, but I forget my positions. Maybe I well take it again..., |
| Date | 02:47:39, July 11, 2014 CET | From | Kirlawa Liberal Party | To | Debating the Party Positions |
| Message | Ah here are my results!! Economic Left/Right 3.00 (Right), Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -3.54 (Social Libertarian). |
| Date | 15:00:10, July 11, 2014 CET | From | Kirlawan People's Justice Party | To | Debating the Party Positions |
| Message | It depends. If we were to look only at economy-related issues, then sure, KPJP would indeed be Left. But as soon as any non-economy issues enter the mix, the picture becomes much more complex. We agree with VRP's analysis (the first and second replies in the discussion). Some nations' parties do tend to fall along a one-dimensional spectrum for whatever reason. Particularly starkly: http://politicalcompass.org/canada2011 http://politicalcompass.org/aus2010 And a little more loosely in others, but the general trend can still be seen: http://politicalcompass.org/nz2008 http://politicalcompass.org/germany2013 http://politicalcompass.org/uselection2008 But there are exceptions, where parties can be found all over the map: http://politicalcompass.org/ukparties2010 |
| Date | 00:29:44, July 12, 2014 CET | From | Kirlawa Liberal Party | To | Debating the Party Positions |
| Message | I am actually changing my position to centre-right as I am libertarian not authoritarian. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 125 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 260 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 154 |
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