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Bill: Abolition Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rally for the Republic
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3721
Description[?]:
| To abolish slavery. The Sequal |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The legality of slavery.
Old value:: The slave trade is illegal, but slavery is legal as a punishment.
Current: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal.
Proposed: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:04:51, August 19, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker. We agree. In a modern society any act or form of slavery are not acceptable. Phillipa Corazona D.A Representative on Justice |
| Date | 04:31:37, August 20, 2014 CET | From | Social Libermuns Party | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, As the Head Consultant in SLP's Trade and Industry sector, I wish to state that people are not commodities that should be traded or owned. The SLP do not wish to perpetuate this type of economy. And, I find the current value allows for too many grey areas in a topic that should be perfectly clear. ~ Emilio Sandoval SLP's Consultant for Trade and Industry |
| Date | 06:05:03, August 20, 2014 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This has nothing to do with economics. The current law keeps the slave trade illegal. Slavery is only legal as a punishment for persons who are convicted of crimes by the justice system. -- George Huddleson, GNRG Spokesman on Justice |
| Date | 07:19:02, August 20, 2014 CET | From | Social Libermuns Party | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, There are too many potential loop holes. Assuming it's for punishment, who gets ownership? The State? The victim? Who gains from the servitude of another person? ~ Emilio Sandoval SLP's Consultant for Trade and Industry |
| Date | 13:09:38, August 20, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, That would be decided by each court case, and it would be the state. There are no loop holes. The slave trade is illegal. Private ownership of slaves wouldn't make sense under the current law. -- George Huddleson, GNRG Spokesman on Justice |
| Date | 14:00:30, August 20, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker. We strongly stand by our first comment. Banning all forms of slavery. Phillipa Corazona D.A Representative on Justice |
| Date | 04:38:29, August 21, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I was just clarifying the law, in response to the SLP. -- George Huddleson, GNRG Spokesman on Justice |
| Date | 12:40:32, August 21, 2014 CET | From | Social Libermuns Party | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Thank you for the clarification, GNRG. Do we have a judicial court that would decide outcomes like this? We came across something while reading that made us wonder if we have a legal court system set up. ~ Emilio Sandoval SLP's Consultant for Trade and Industry |
| Date | 14:41:07, August 21, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Office of the President is the judiciary authority of the country. -- George Huddleson, GNRG Spokesman on Justice |
| Date | 09:22:57, August 22, 2014 CET | From | Social Libermuns Party | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, You say this is not a economic problem, and even if this were true, it is still a moral problem. We are talking about taking away a person's freedom permanently. It's not just a prison sentence, it strips a person of their status as human. Is there certain types of punishment that are acceptable and certain types of punishments that are not? Do they become labourers? Servants? Sex slaves? Do we have regulations in place for how to treat slaves? Can an owner hit a slave? Can they starve a slave? What stops the mistreatment? Because a slave is rarely treated at a level of human decency. How exactly would do we go about delivering justice like this with a population of 99,606,831? Even if only 1 in 100,000 people needed access to justice, this would still mean about 3 cases daily. And, a proper deliberation on even one case involving slavery would need much more time than that would allow. They wouldn't even get a court case, because there is no court involved. They would get a passing deliberation. That is unacceptable. There is way too much potential for abuse. ~ Emilio Sandoval SLP's Consultant for Trade and Industry |
| Date | 14:10:34, August 22, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We can pass resolutions on how the law will be applied. As for concerns about how justice is delivered, it is rare that anyone comes to the physical office of the President. "The Office of the President" is a nationwide institution. The President has representatives that rule on court cases on his behalf, and he is allowed to intervene, hire extra representatives, or fire representatives. -- George Huddleson, GNRG Spokesman on Justice |
| Date | 22:11:49, August 29, 2014 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Senor President Members of the Parliament, forgive me for speaking, but I represent the worker's republic of Baltusia who is currently hodling about 1 000 of your citizen in our prisons, we would really love to send back those people in your nation, Lodamis must be judge in Lodamun, if possible, I would ask if there is any baltusians, being judged for crimes in your nation and i so, may possible to send back to their country, where they will submit to a fair trial. Hoverer, we cannot send you back your national, because your nation pratice unfair punishment, known as slavery, As long as your nation hold this law, Baltusia will not agree to any extradiction with your republic, thanks for listening. we do hope, we can have cooperation from our neighbours |
| Date | 22:12:40, August 29, 2014 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Abolition Act |
| Message | Evelyn-Kathy Dark-Light, Co-Leader of the DLLCP and Baltusia temporary foreign Minister |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 77 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 224 | ||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 298 |
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